Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medieval Scotland/Royal naming

I don't have a firm opinion on the question under discussion (as yet), but I would like to say that I don't think contemporary Welsh "kings" make for a good comparison, for a couple of reasons:

1. There was hardly ever a ruler of the whole of Wales before the Norman Conquest of 1282, and even on the occasions when there was one, his dominance never lasted beyond his own reign.
2. The use of Welsh names in article titles in the English wikipedia is something I have been nervous about all along (and in fact I started the Hywel Dda article as "Howell the Good"). But the fact is that Welsh names are the most commonly used nowadays, even in histories written by monoglot English speakers, and the use of "Howell the Good", "Owen Glendower", and so on, is virtually obsolete. However, if someone were to argue the toss, I would find it difficult to defend the current usages. Gaelic/Scots/Irish is a different matter, because these languages are not as well-established as Welsh now is. Someone rightly made the point that it may, at some future date, become "normal" to use the Gaelic names, and when that time comes, I would support a move of the articles - but it is still some way off. Deb 19:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)