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Ambiguous term "Asian Games"

Our Wikipedia article for Asian Games is for Asian Summer Games, but the term "Asian Games" is applicable with all the multi-sport events (MSEs) recognized and organized by the Olympic Council of Asia (OCA)— Asian Martial Arts –, Asian Winter –, Asian Indoor –, Asian Beach –, Asian Youth Games. Unlike Olympics we don't have any single term to incorporate all these MSEs. Like articles of type "Country at the Asian Games" usually start with "XYZ first competed at the Asian Games in <any year>" or "XYZ is participating in the Asian Games since <any year>", lead talks about only the Asian Summer Games, not other MSEs of OCA. So, please suggest any possible way to distinguish in between these two terms "Asian Games" and "Asian Summer Games". Like Olympics and Summer Olympics, one possible way is to rename "Asian Games" to "Asian Summer Games". — Bill william compton^Talk 14:23, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

I like the idea of moving the Asian Games to the "Asian Summer Games", however the OCA I believe does not use that as a designation. Maybe somewhere in the article we can list at the top something like this "For encyclopedic reasons the Asian Games are called the Asian Summer Games to distinguish from other OCA events". Intoronto1125TalkContributions 15:01, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree two terms are ambiguous, but changing name to "Asian Summer Games" bring confusion to wikipedia user and OCA does not use term that Intoronto1125 mentioned already. I think that two duplicate names move two different page. For example, one is "Asian Games" we use MSEs as Asian Summer Games, and other is "Asian Games (term)" or other suitable title such as disambiguation page. Saint9016 (talk) 06:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, OCA doesn't use "summer" term, but the problem is with the articles of type Country at the Asian Games, what should we interpret from this? "Asian Summer Games" or an article about the participation of country in the different MSEs organized by the OCA, like Asian Winter Games, Asian Youth Games, Asian Martial Arts Games, etc. Let's take an example: article Pakistan at the Asian Games is about the participation of Pakistan at the different MSEs of the OCA, but any common user/reader would misunderstand it with an article about the participation of Pakistan at the Asian Games, which actually is "Asian Summer Games". Secondly, how we supposed to start the article?, currently the first sentence of the article says: "Pakistan [...] participating in the Asian Games since the second edition of the Games in 1954" meaning "Asian Summer Games". Although for clarity I've also written a special section "Membership of Olympic Council of Asia", but I think this is not enough as lead is still dedicated to Asian Summer Games only. And, I don't think this makes any sense: "Pakistan at the Asian Games (term)", any suitable title?. Does IOC use "Summer" term with Olympics? — Bill william compton^Talk 17:26, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I understand the point, we have to change the descriptions of "Country at the Asian Games" articles, It should fit for all MSEs of OCA. but "Asian Summer Games" looks strange to me. I never heard this anywhere else, unlike Summer Olympics. For IOC, Summer Games and Winter Games have the same importance but for OCAsia Asian Winter Games is a minor tournament. in Asian Winter Games, the host country can change what it want, that's why the host country always tops the medal table. beside that Asian Games are usually hold in Autumn/Winter ! anyhow I don't think any change is needed. Mohsen1248 (talk) 23:51, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

The OCA seem quite content having it as the plain Asian Games. The "summer" designation doesn't seem to be in wide usage like with the Olympics (although the Chinese association designates it in this way). A simple unambiguous term for these five games are "Olympic Council of Asia events".

Just to draw a line under this perceived ambiguity: both the Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics are referred to as "the Olympics", but I've never seen the other Asian events, like the Beach or Indoor Games, referred to just as "the Asian Games". The real question is why are articles like Pakistan at the Asian Games covering things that are not the Asian Games? SFB 11:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

2014 Asian Games disciplines sub-articles

Who can complete missing sub-articles of disciplines contained in the 2014 Asian Games?

For example: Fencing at the 2014 Asian Games – Men's individual sabre, Swimming at the 2014 Asian Games – Men's 200 metre freestyle.