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Updating woolly monkey pages

Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia, so not sure of the etiquette! I'm particularly interested in some of the new world monkeys, and I was hoping I could help to edit the woolly monkey pages - there is information on the Brown woolly monkey page which actually refers to primary research on the Silvery woolly monkey (which contains almost no information. Are there any existing plans to update these pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctor S Monkey (talk • contribs) 21:54, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

@Doctor S Monkey: nice to meet you. You can update those articles if you have sources for your changes. There are so many species articles that could use some love, so if you see something, be bold and help out. If you have more questions, ask here and/or on the article talk pages. --Nessie (talk) 02:21, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

DeBrazza's Monkeys Edits

Hello all, I'm new here and looking to edit and update the DeBrazza's monkey page for a class assignment with new information from current literature. I currently research golden monkeys, another species of guenon, but the DeBrazza's has always interested me because of their unusual social habits. I just wanted to check in a make sure that was ok before moving ahead with any further edits. Alithia93 (talk) 14:44, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

@Alithia93:, please feel free to go ahead and edit it. Plantdrew (talk) 16:00, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

First annual Tree of Life Decemberween contest

After all the fun with the Spooky Species Contest last month, there's a new contest for the (Northern hemisphere's) Winter holidays at Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Contest. It's not just Christmas, but anything festive from December-ish. Feel free to add some ideas to the Festive taxa list and enter early and often. --Nessie (talk) 18:49, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

"Bili ape" neds updating

Bili ape (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) needs work. For a start, it refers to these chimpanzees as apes, not just in the title but elsewhere. I think this is confusing to the lay reader - we're apes, but are normally called humans. This research published this year [1] calls them "Bili-Uéré chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes schweinfurthii)" (while still using the word ape) and suggests that "this widespread and related suite of behaviours be referred to as the Bili-Uéré Chimpanzee Behavioural Realm. I don't have the time or knowledge to work on it I'm afraid. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 10:06, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Interspecific Relations

Is there anything that could be added to? I believe that the information under interspecific relations could be fleshed out more. While not being someone who is well versed in the interspecific relationships of monkeys, I believe that there is more to say than simply "associated" with each other, do they work together in the perspective of pack hunting? Or is it more as if they associate simply by living in the same habitat and filling different niches to coexist? I think that there is more to interspecific relations than just predator/prey and "in association". CPandCP (talk) 03:51, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Update to peer review page

Hi all, I've boldly updated your project's peer review page (Wikipedia:WikiProject Primates/Peer review) by updating the instructions and archiving old reviews.

The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process (WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.

The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.

I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.

Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) (talk) 23:59, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Reassessment of ? Nycticebus linglom

I've listed the page ? Nycticebus linglom for reassessment (link to discussion here), as I'm a little worried that it relying on a single source might hint at some problems with notability/neutrality. –LogStar100 (talk) 23:33, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of NIA rhesus macaque calorie restriction study for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article NIA rhesus macaque calorie restriction study is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NIA rhesus macaque calorie restriction study until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Just looking through the cleanup listing for this WP and found these two orphaned articles, both of which have questionable WP:NOTABILITY. Jack (talk) 12:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Pusat Studi Satwa Primata for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pusat Studi Satwa Primata is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pusat Studi Satwa Primata until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Jack (talk) 12:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Elgin Center for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Elgin Center is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elgin Center until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Jack (talk) 10:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Help evaluate article on Gabon Talapoin

Hi I'm a university student editing an article on the Gabon Talapoin and I would appreciate it if anyone could take a look at the article in a few weeks time. Thank you! NoEsPu102 (talk) 15:11, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome! I'll take a look at your work when you're done. Cheers, Jack (talk) 10:30, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! The article has been expanded and any feedback would be appreciated. I will continue to build on it in the meantime :) NoEsPu102 (talk) 09:23, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Category:Primates articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion

Category:Primates articles needing expert attention has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 05:09, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Article title input requested

An editor has requested for Early European modern humans to be moved to Upper Palaeolithic Europe. Since you had some involvement with Early European modern humans, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). Note that the page was already moved, however the discussion has been reopened as the result of a move review. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 15:00, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

RfC on the Ham and Enos photos on the Chimpanzee page

There is an RfC concerning the images of Ham and Enos at Talk:Chimpanzee#Space chimp which may be of interest. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:27, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Dragon man

I recently created an article for the recently discovered archaic human Dragon Man (archaic human). Any help improving the article would be appreciated. Thank you! Thriley (talk) 17:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Australopithecine

Needs checking, esp. dates. Doug Weller talk 14:10, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Updated primates article

Hey there, I have added a lot of information onto a primates article White-nosed saki. I went to the assessments portal to request a re-assessment but have seen there haven't been any new posts since 2021, so I wasn't sure if the portal was still active. I was wondering where I could go about getting a new assessment done on this updated article? It is currently sitting as a 'stub' but I would love for someone to check it out and reassess it if possible. Vikster28 (talk) 06:36, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I would also love to receive a peer review but when I go to type in my article name into the provided template, it tells me it doesn't exist. How would I go about getting a peer review? I'd appreciate any help since I'm not sure why it didn't work. Vikster28 (talk) 07:06, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

@Vikster28:, I've reassessed it as B-class. This (or WikiProject Mammals) are the best places to request a reassessment. Very few people watch the reassessment portals. I'm not sure why the peer review request didn't work; you were following the instructions at Wikipedia:Peer review/guidelines? Plantdrew (talk) 20:41, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much for checking it out and doing that! I appreciate your time. Yes, I was following the instructions but for some reason it kept saying that my article didn't exist once I had hyperlinked it. I'll give it another go. Vikster28 (talk) 04:53, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Galago (genus) taxonomic changes

See talk:Galago (genus) but, in brief, taxonomic changes have occurred over the last few years, and this article has several points that are related to species removed to other genera. Also, the article could use a taxonomic history section. UtherSRG (talk) 14:34, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Primate help desk?

Not sure where to take this question within Wikipedia, but I’m hoping to identify the species of monkey in this photograph.

File:Unidentified monkey at Universal City Zoo and Joe Martin (orangutan).jpg

Thanks in advance for any pointers. Best, jengod (talk) 19:55, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

It is some kind of capuchin monkey, probably genus Cebus. Anything ID more detailed would be purely speculative. UtherSRG (talk) 21:22, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Tremendous! Thank v much User:UtherSRG jengod (talk) 21:43, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Largest non-human primates

Could someone look at this article? The premise (that these are the ten largest) is uncited, so the entire article looks like WP:OR. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

It looks like a possibly allowable form of WP:SYNTH. I dunno. Go ahead and flag it for better scrutiny, please. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:11, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

See this post from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mammals : 10+ individuals primates pages needing Wikiprojects Assessment/Tags

Many pages of animals do not have either wikiprojects attached to them or even existant talk pages, on this linked post i listed in my sandbox (since otherwise it would clogged a lot) about 300 such pages, some of which are pertinent to this wikiproject, notably 5 individual chimpanzees and 5 other individual primates pages. There is probably also a few others pages that could be pertinent to this project.

Entry of the talk page : Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mammals#Are_individual_animals_page_in_the_WikiProjectMammals_?

Cheers ! Gimly24 (talk) 21:11, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:56, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Gray langur#Requested move 18 December 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Gray langur#Requested move 18 December 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 15:38, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Surili#Requested move 18 December 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Surili#Requested move 18 December 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 15:40, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Pan-Primates

The redirect Pan-Primates has been nominated at RfD, and the discussion would benefit from input from those with knowledge of the subject area. Please comment at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 25#Pan-Primates. Thryduulf (talk) 13:19, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

The Primatomorpha and Plesiadapiformes articles need attention. The taxobox at Primatomorpha effectively treats Pan-Primates as a synonym of a redefined Plesiadapiformes including the crown group. The Plesiadapiformes article starts by describing them as an extinct basal pan-Primates group, sister to the rest of Pan-Primates, but then has cladograms treating it as synonym of Pan-Primates or Primatomorpha, including all the stem taxa and the crown group. Has the traditional treatment defined Plesiadapiformes a distinct group of stem taxa (are there others?) or a paraphalytic grade excluding the crown? And has it been formally recircumscribed to include the crown? —  Jts1882 | talk  10:25, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Does the term "chimpanzee" include the bonobo?

Is it correct to say, as was stated here, that "Chimpanzee is the generic term for both species" (P. troglodytes and P. paniscus)?  --Lambiam 18:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

See Talk:Pan_(genus)#Requested_move_6_January_2019 and Talk:Chimpanzee/Archive_1#Requested_move_22_January_2019. Bonobos used to be called "pygmy chimpanzees", but that has fallen out of favor. Wikipedia once had the article about the genus Pan at the title "Chimpanzee", but now that title is used for the article that was titled "Common chimpanzee". Plantdrew (talk) 20:13, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

So does this mean the statement is incorrect (and the edit reversal was therefore unjustified)?  --Lambiam 23:35, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Ape#Requested move 2 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ape#Requested move 2 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 19:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

FAR notice: Lemurs of Madagascar (book)

I have nominated Lemurs of Madagascar (book) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)