Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Puerto Rico/Archives/2013/September

New article on Puerto Rico's foreign relations

Hi guys, please help expand:

• Foreign relations of Puerto Rico

It's a new article which deserves much more content and references as it serves to open Puerto Rico to the world politically, economically, socially, and culturally.

—Ahnoneemoos (talk) 05:59, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Sourcing help

I have AFDed Real estate in Puerto Rico, as I find much of the information there has been sourced to a newspaper entitled the Puerto Rico Daily Sun. I believe the newspaper itself to be a hoax, perpetrated by the Plastic Beach/Horizontal Law sock farm. (This sockmaster has been known to create hoax newspapers (including hoax websites to support them) in the past in order to use said hoax newspapers as citations in hoax articles. See WP:Articles for deletion/Merhoff Post.) So my question to this WikiProject is: can anyone in PR actually verify the existence of this newspaper? Their website has been lost to a Japanese language forum, but looking at the Wayback Machine archives, it was at one time a news website, but if one examines different archives, they all contain the same content. (Not much of a news site if the content never changes!) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the Puerto Rico Daily Sun used to be an online newspaper but it went bankrupt IIRC. See [1] Their last tweet was in 2011. By the way, if you need to verify if a company exists in Puerto Rico you can use the online database provided by the Department of State of Puerto Rico at: [2] There are currently two companies named for the Puerto Rico Daily Sun: a for-profit which is no longer active, and a non-profit which is currently active. You can also use the corporate directory provided by Caribbean Business at [3] Hope this helps. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 17:00, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

What you have shown me is an indication that someone registered a corporation name. What I would like to know is if anyone has actually ever seen a copy of this newspaper. The article about it does not mention that it is an online only venue, giving the impression that it is a print publication. As the "island's only English language daily", I would think there would be more noise about it. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:32, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

The Puerto Rico Daily Sun was as an entirely online newspaper; hence why no one will ever be able to show you a "copy" of it. The reason why it used to call itself the "island's only English language daily" was because (1) Caribbean Business and News Is My Business are NOT "daily newspapers" and (2) the only other daily was The San Juan Star which went bankrupt before the Daily Sun did. Therefore, due to those circumstances, the Puerto Rico Daily Sun was indeed the island's only English language daily before it disappeared. Finally, there is not enough noise about it because other newspapers have more prominence since they have online presence as well but are published in Spanish instead. English is only spoken by 10% of the population, therefore an "English only daily" would not necessary have "more noise about it". That's a construct built by yourself by your own prerogatives and assumptions. Generalized online newspapers published in English in Puerto Rico tend to do poorly in the Puerto Rican market. As an example, Caribbean Business has been able to survive since it's not published daily and it's focused on business. Same with News Is My Business. Hope this clears things up. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 20:13, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

It seems the newspaper was actually printed as well. I might not have seen it 'cuz I don't live on the island and when I travel there for business I don't pay attention to those matters. This can help: [4] My suggestion would be that you contact the University of Puerto Rico to see if they have an actual copy of it. You can start by contacting the School of Public Communications. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 20:17, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Here's the source you need: [5] from the World Association of Newspapers and News Publishers: "Last October, Puerto Rico Daily Sun was launched to cater for the country's English speakers. The Sun's origins as the cooperative venture of staff made redundant from the folded San Juan Star make the publication an interesting case study in alternatve business models." It seems the Daily Sun was created by former employees of The San Juan Star. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 20:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)