Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Puerto Rico/Archives/2023/September

Notice

This month (June 2023) I will begin to review the names which have been added to the "List of Puerto Ricans". Those unknown names which have been added without following the proper rules of inclusion will be removed. As stated by the "rules of inclusion" all the names added must be of notable people and must have a reliable source which states their Puerto Rican heritage. Any name that is removed can be added once more only if a proper source is included which indicates that said person is in fact notable and Puerto Rican or of Puerto Rican heritage. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:03, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Marine 69-71:. Cheers! The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 16:41, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

How to subcategorize Puerto Rico articles

I have been working on standardizing the subcategories under which Puerto Rico-related articles appear. There was a mix of ways under which Puerto Rico articles were being subcategorized, yet the natural thing to do seemed to be to have a one common systematic way of subcategorizing them. For example, in categories about museums, the subcategory “Category:Museums in Puerto Rico” could had been subcategorized under (1) Category:Museums in insular areas of the United States, (2) Category:Museums in the United States by location, or (3) Category:Museums in the United States by dependent territory, (and perhaps a few others). I chose the first format (“XYZ in insular areas of the United States”). It seemed natural: most subcategories of Puerto Rico articles already appeared to be using that format. What do you all think? Mercy11 (talk) 01:14, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Since Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States, I agree with the use of the insular area category since it is a fairly common term in the United States to refer to its dependent territories. Yarfpr (talk) 01:30, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

It was time someone did this. Thanks Mercy11. "Category:... in insular areas of the United States" is a good bucket and it fills up with other US insular areas, as well. i.e. USVI, and the other less populated ones - the ones no one seems to speak of hardly. Let me know if you need help with this project and I could try to make some time but I've just been so busy with life. Thanks again. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 15:04, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

@Mercy11: The "Foo by / of Insular Areas ..." is a good way to categorize but I saw it's being discussed over here. I added my .02 with a WP:RS showing that the US Dept of Interior defines An Insular Area of the United States as "A jurisdiction that is neither a part of one of the several States nor a Federal district. This is the current generic term to refer to any commonwealth, freely associated state, possession or territory or Territory and from July 18, 1947, until October 1, 1994, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands. Unmodified, it may refer not only to a jurisdiction which is under United States sovereignty but also to one which is not, i.e., a freely associated state or, 1947-94, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands or one of the districts of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands."

Setting up the categories like this would contain all things that are not US states or Washington DC and I think that is the correct way to do it. The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 13:36, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

References

Fixing Climate change in Puerto Rico is a marathon not a sprint

As you can see at Template:Did you know nominations/Climate change in Puerto Rico if it is not fixed in the next couple of days it will not be linked from main page which would be a pity I think Chidgk1 (talk) 16:30, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

@Chidgk1: Thank you. I, personally, did not have time back in July. Although, I have worked on DYK twice (yes, a big 2 times!), and although I have thought about trying to do more- so far, I have lacked time and focus. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 14:08, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Even though it missed DYK this time it would still be worth you and others interested in the island fixing up the article in the long term I think. Even if you only did maybe 10 or 15 mins a week so long as you did it systematically and noted on the talk page which sections you had fixed someone else would be able to take over if you ran out of time. If it takes more than a few mins to verify that a sentence reflects a source then just delete the sentence in my opinion (or move whole dubious sections to the talk page).

Because the subject of the article will still be important in 5 or 10 years time or whenever it is got up to good standard and so becomes eligible for DYK again. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:21, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Crime notability

I was digging around about violent street gangs and the FBI, and found news about an indictment of a group that operated in and around Manati. My question is broad- about including a crime section in some of the (place) articles. It is WP:NEWS but at some point the topic may be notable enough, right? A lot of WP city articles include a Crime section. Just sharing my thoughts.

References

The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 15:34, 30 September 2023 (UTC)