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Sections to delete

I see wikipedia defines some sections in Wikiproject as default. However, not all projects keep them. Which ones do you think are not usuful for us? For one, I'd delete the "Related Regional notice boards" one. Ideas? -- Andromeda 00:29, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Zxcvbnm deleted a bunch of sections already. I've also deleted most of the ones in the Related pages in Sister projects section, since only the Wikiquotes one has content. Deleted also "Wikipedia namespace and Meta-Wiki articles on Stargate", Related Collaborations, Related groups of Wikipedians, Wikipedia surveys, Stargate Meetups, Sister Project links and several generic, non-useful links. If anyone things I've been too generous with the delete key, feel free to revert anything. Thanks. -- Andromeda 02:15, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Episode stylesheet (was: Focus)

Yes, I agree about deleting sections. When I saw 30+ sections I was really taken aback. What's the difference between similar and related wikiprojects? Goasl v. projects v. tasks? Also perhaps get rid of everything below "New Wikipedia articles related to Stargate".

I agree that Character templates are a good idea. I would argue that we should also create a template for individual episodes. I went through all the season one Atlantis episodes yesterday to try to standardise them. Some didn't have an introductory sentence. Some lacked spoiler warnings, etc. We should do the same for SG-1 episodes. I'd be willing to work on this if you like. I'm also involved with Wikipedia: WikiProject Television.

Acegikmo1 00:48, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

You mean a style sheet for the episodes? It would be a good idea. Or do you mean something to replace the Infobox Television episode in use now? -- Andromeda 02:09, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I mean a style sheet for episodes. I really like the Infobox. Acegikmo1 02:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok, it was just to clarify. I think is a good idea. Do you have a proposal? -- Andromeda 02:34, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I've created a episode style sheet subpage. Please let me know what you think and make any changes you think are necessary. Acegikmo1 18:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Storyline

I believe we need to create an article on the storyline of Stargate SG-1. I realize we already have something similar with the Stargate SG-1 episode guide, but it is incomplete. I believe it would be much easier to break it down season by season and give a general overview of the storyline. The plot of a show is one of the most important parts, and not enough of the shows have information on the storyline and plot progression. I believe that the info for SG-1 is already much more complete than just about any other show, and this addition would make it only more complete. bob rulz 01:53, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea. Sometimes is very tedious to go through an episode guide to know what happened. It could also serve as introduction to new viewers. -- Andromeda 02:09, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

This should be put under a 'Plot synopsis' section on the main Stargate SG-1 page, and then the Episode guide can be entirely seperate. --alfakim 16:02, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Standard Article Layout

This is something that needs to be discussed and acted upon, and may be one of the main tasks for the project. Pages like individual episodes need to be un-stubbed and follow a decent template, and then pages on machinery and so on likewise. --alfakim 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Characters

Does there need to be an article for every SG-1 and Atlantis character, or just the main ones (and if so should we delete articles on minor characters?). I think there at least need to be articles for all main characters in both series (which I'm sure there already are).

It would be harder to create predefined sections for characters I think because of their intricacies (see the Teal'c page which documents his lovelife.) --alfakim 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I would prefer to have pages for main and recurring characters, with special pages for minor characters whose participation has impacted the series in some way. There are articles on the main characters, but several would benefit from some expanding.

Some guide would be nice. Yes, I added the section on Teal'c's lovelife because I thought his relationships were important points in his development as a character (the relationship with his son, Shan'auc and his later revenge on Tanith and so). Of course, the article would need a reworking, adding more about his story and working the lovelife part into it, but I'm concentrating more on Atlantis right now. Do you have any idea for a style sheet? -- Andromeda 20:28, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Lesser recurring characters could also be put all in one page. For example, a Athosians page for characters like Halling and his son Jinto, that had been featured in a couple of episodes of Atlantis but they don't have big roles. That, however, means defining which recurring character deserves a profile of their own and which not. For example, I think Zelenka and Frasier deserve their own profiles. However, lesser Atlantis scientists like Kavanagh or Heightmeyer could be dumped together in an Atlantis scientists page. Perhaps a minimum number of episodes to have appeared in? On the other hand, some characters appeared only a few times but made an important impact. -- Andromeda 06:51, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

There's an example: Athosian Characters in Stargate Atlantis (still needs some work) -- Andromeda 12:04, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Well I agree: it's easy enough to decide who is a big or little character. Minor characters get grouped into summary pages.--alfakim 19:46, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Which sections did you have in mind for the article? I've worked mostly on the Stargate Atlantis character and there I only separated the information by season. However, with 9 seasons of SG-1, it would be a bit more difficult there. -- Andromeda 05:34, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

It may be easier to judge an articles suitability as such: if there's enough unique information to write about an individual, they deserve their own article. I think as a minimum, the page on Richard Woolsey is just about as short as you can possibly make one without tons of information that doesn't need to be included. -b 00:16, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Devices and Technology

Sections in this type of article will probably be like:

Creator(s), Antecedent(s) (like X-302 / F-302), Owner(s), First Appearance, Appearance(s), Use(s), Extra Info (like what it's powered by, or what it goes together with). --alfakim 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Episodes

Sections in this type of article will probably be like:

Plot Synopsis, Notable Features (like the first appearance ever of an Asgard, etc, or of naquadria, or like there's a cameo, or something), the standard TV Episode template (see Children of the Gods (Stargate SG-1)), Follow-ups (like if the episode introduces the Kull Disruptor, it can say here that the weapon is used in future episodes X and Y, especially in Episode Z when etc...) / Conclusions (like if in a previous episode we heard all about Ascension, it can say here that in this episode, that storyline climaxes with the Ascension of character X...) --alfakim 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I've tried to incorporate this into the episode style sheet. Do you have any comments? Acegikmo1 06:00, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

No that Style Sheet is perfectly good, I'm all happy to go forward with it.--alfakim 19:44, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Just one small thing. Episode (Stargate Atlantis) is being used instead of Episode (Stargate: Atlantis). I think there's too many episodes to change it right now, but I'm open to suggestions.

Apart from that, I really like it. -- Andromeda 06:56, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Races

Sections in this type of article will probably be like:

Description, Tendencies, Alliances and Enemies, Subdivisions, First Appearance, Technology (how advanced they are), Relation (ie Jaffa are Gao'uld related, Aschen are Human-related). --alfakim 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

What do you mean by Tendencies? I would add also a Story section, if aplicable. For example, with the Asgard, their story in the series (Cimmeria, the replicators, etc). I don't know if I'm explaining myself very well... -- Andromeda 08:31, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Tendencies: Jaffa tend to be fighters. Goa'uld tend to be egoistic. You're right though, all of that goes into Description. And yes, a Story bit would be useful too. When this is all agreed on we might head off... --alfakim 19:42, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok, what about this: Description, Story, Organization/Structure, Alliances and Enemies, Technology & Episodes (First appearance and other notable episodes they're appeared in). Opinions? -- Andromeda 05:47, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Planets

I was wondering whether there should be a section of this project for major Planets as well, like Kelowna, Earth (obviously), Abydos, the fire-covered Ancients Planet... These pages would probably just have information on the population or technology, or politics (like on Kelowna), or what was found there (like the Ancients Planet). --alfakim 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Not a bad idea, but I think there could be an overlapping between the races and planets sections. A page on Earth it's also a page on the Tau'ri. However, in other cases like Kelowna, Kelowna may be a race/civilization article while Langaria would be the planet article. We should define in which cases a planet article is necessary and in which cases a race article is better, perhaps with some redirects, I think. -- Andromeda 08:35, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

In general I'd say that we should favour Race articles. Kelowna is a bit of an exclusive one. By planetary articles, my thinking was more of this: the idea of this WikiProject is to create a comprehensive guide to the StarGate Universe: well - that includes all of its fictional planets. Might a page like List of StarGate Planets be of any use? Like: P3X-796 (invented): Icy planet inhabited by weird people. Pic. Possibly a gate address or plotty thing, distance from earth, galaxy its in (not really relevant most of the time). But in general I think sticking to race articles is best. --alfakim 19:39, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I think so. The list is good idea. There's one already, but only of "lesser planets" (we can just put a redirect on that one once the good one is finished). I just cleaned un the Stargate SG-1 article by creating Human civilizations in Stargate SG-1 and Alien Races in Stargate pages and a list of planets would help too. The one in the article now is incomplete and messy. -- Andromeda 03:07, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

There is also an arcticle "List of known Stargates", which is linked to from a single page, making it pretty much useless. -b 00:23, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

What about a combined list? Something like this:

Milky Way Stargates

Stargates situated on the Milky Way or address from the Milky Way.

Planet	SGC Designation	Stargate address	Notes
Abydos	P8X-873		Destroyed
Chulak			Teal'c's homeworld

Pegasus Galaxy Stargates

Stargates situated on the Pegasus Galaxy or address from the Pegasus Galaxy.

Planet	SGC Designation	Stargate address	Notes
Atlantis
Athos

-- Andromeda 12:46, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Great idea. Planet Lists and Stargate Lists all become one nice-looking and easy article. I'm totally for this idea. --alfakim 14:10, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

List of Stargate planets created. Opinions? -- Andromeda 22:00, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Episode List

I was wondering what type of format we should use for Episode list. I like Enterprise's episode list. It contains a bunch of great features that would be nice to have for the 3 Stargate Series. It contains a short introduction to the series and a picture of the DVD set. The table contains a lot of useful information including a screenshot from each episode, the episode title (with a link to its page), it episode number, and its original airdate. So what do you guys think of having a similar list for the Stargate series? What type of information should we have in addition to what I have mentioned? --Mattwj2002 01:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

A few days ago, I created Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Episode list style guide. I would be willing to apply the formula to Stargate episode lists if you approve. Acegikmo1 01:56, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

I read through the format and it sounds prefect. I would be very pleased if you would apply the formula. --Mattwj2002 02:44, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

"Gods"

List of Gods in Stargate or something? Well - not necessarily a list anyway. I was just thinking that it would be some rather good information on this universe to have something on the various Gods that Goa'uld and other races play in Stargate. I thought of this when looking over the main Stargate article. All of the Gods that the show has Goa'uld's play are Gods no longer worshipped, but prominent Gods from pagan mythologies. It's an interesting addition to their lineage that their existence was explained by alien posers in a future television series.

I count so far only references to Egypt and Norse. I hear we have Celtic and Mayan too. I'll start a count here with what I can remember, and I think this info should be incorporated somehow into a page somewhere. And if we are going to have character pages for the major "Gods" (such as the ones below), a List kinda makes sense. Well... tell me what you think. --alfakim 14:21, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

[deleted the list when idea became redundant]--alfakim 12:15, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Apophis is an Egyptian god; Yu is Chinese, but I don't really think that it's a "God", more of an "Emperor"; if I recall correctly, Ba'al exists in a number of seperate mythologies, but I'm no expert on mythology, so don't quote me on that. Of course, you could have always looked them up on Wikipedia ;) ...but hell, even I'm too lazy to do that right now. Anyway, I'm not sure if we really need a List of Gods in Stargate; it's a little bit reduntant, imo, as it would just be a cut-down version of a character list. bob rulz 14:39, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

I dont think you got what I meant. All of these Gods are going to have character pages anyway, and there's going to be a List of SG1 Characters too isnt there. I was just suggesting a second list that links to the same pages, but this second list lists by God. --alfakim 17:11, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

That's still not necessary. We can create links to the separate gods on the character pages themselves. bob rulz 18:07, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

Heh, whatever. Just an idea. 'Tis what discussion pages are for.--alfakim 15:51, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Yu is a demigod of sorts who founded the Xia Dynasty. Baal is a Caananite god (yes that's the Biblical Baal). Apophis was in fact the enemy of Ra whom the chief god fought from the solar boat every night; he was never depicted in human form and was always a snake. LD 8/11/2005

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This whole idea actually falls under the article System Lord. It has been suggested that lesser Gods like Nirrte have their pages merged into that article, but I still think that the major Lords should have seperate character pages (basically just Apophis, Anubis and Baal). Otherwise, that article should have info on all the System Lords and lesser Gods. Any agreement? --alfakim 15:16, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I think it depends of how much information is avaliable about each of them. Some of them had not appeared much, but had made a significative contribution. About others, however, really not much can be said. Basically, what I mean is that we should not restrict ourselves to a "only the three big ones" rule, but judge each one individually. -- Andromeda 19:23, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Yup. that's the new one. i think it's fairly ok right now.

So'Kar is said to be Satan in 'Demons,' which would imply at least a minimal Christian presence of Gua'uld 'gods.' -- Stax August, 23rd, 2005

Hood ornaments

Somewhat tangential, but I've been thinking--why can't we put the symbol of each System Lord (if it is known) with its article? Surely someone can find them somewhere. LD 16 August 2005

I didn't know that their symbols were actually designated by the show, but if you or anyone can find them, that's totally cool.--alfakim 22:05, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

I presume LD was refering to the forehead decals the Jaffa have. Apophis has a snake. Anubis has a black-and-white version of the New England Patriots logo. (Okay not really, but that's what it always looked like to me.)

—wwoods 23:07, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

If we can know what each System Lord has, or at least if we can do 50%, it'll be worth adding to the System Lord article's table. On that note, please go and check my work, and add to it. --alfakim 00:57, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

I think that Telchak is actually supposed to be "Tel'chac" and I beleive that Daniel Jackson considered it likely that he was Chac, the Mayan God of Rain. Makes sense, since he ran the Fountain of Youth (See Season 7, Evolution, Part 1). In any case, "Moloch" was the name of the ritual of child sacrifice in ancient Carthage. As for symbols, we see Apophis' symbol every time we see Teal'c; Ra's is the Eye of Ra (Season 8, Moebius parts 1 and 2); Anubis' does look rather like the Patriot symbol; Baal's is an undescribable pattern of arcs (but you see them everywhere in Season 8 so don't worry about it); Nirrti's symbol is a sort of sideways heart; Yu's symbol is the Chinese character 中, (pronounced zhong), which means "middle" (as in the Middle Kingdom, China). That's a start, I think.LD 17 August 2005

Sure, I remember most of the symbols. Moloc's is a couple of arcy things too. But the problem is finding pictures of the symbols.--alfakim 10:56, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Antarctica in Stargate SG1/Stargate Atlantis

• Antarctica first appears in Stargate SG1 when then-Colonel Jack O'Neill and then-Captain Samantha Carter arrive through the so-called "Second Gate" on Earth. They believe they are on an alien planet because a high energy weapon hitting the Stargate as they went through made the Gate send them to a planet besides Earth, but it actually merely jumped the wormhole from the "First Gate" in the SGC to the "Second Gate" in Antarctica. The Antarctic gate is removed and sent off to Area 51
• The Antarctic Gate is stolen by the NID in "Touchstone" and used to accquire alien technology.
• Antarctica itself is seen in Stargate several more times. In "Frozen", where an Ancient alien infected with a plague is dug up from the ice; in "Lost City", where an Ancient outpost is discovered which leads to Anubis's defeat; and finally in the Stargate Atlantis premiere "Rising" where the eventual Atlantis crew is researching the technology of the Ancient outpost and Dr. Daniel Jackson discovers how to dial the true lost city of Atlantis.

Stargate SG-1 Story Arcs

I was looking at List of Star Trek: Enterprise story arcs and I liked the concept of having a page that grouped the episodes by what type of concept or theme were presented in what particular episodes. For example, it might listed that such and such episodes are about the replicators, time travel, or the politics of the SGC program. What do you guys think? --Mattwj2002 14:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

I think it can be a good idea. Any idea on how to do it? Myself, I like the format of the Enterprise list. --Andromeda 02:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, one such is at http://rdanderson.com/stargate/arcs/arcs.htm .

Off the top of my head, episodes dealing with Apophis, Anubis, Ba'al, Nirrti, Yu, the Tok'ra, the Asgard, the Replicators, the NID build off previous episodes. In fact, scanning through recordings for "Previously, on Stargate SG-1,..." introductions would identify episodes that the producers thought had important continuity. (Or at least they didn't want to reprise the backstory inside the episode.) To avoid clutter, I suggest it takes a minimum of three episodes to make a noteworthy arc.

—wwoods 07:21, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. By these criteria then (just off the top of my head):

• Skaara: Children of the Gods, Within the Serpent's Grasp, The Serpent's Lair, Pretense, Full Circle
• Sha're/Shifu: Children of the Gods, Secrets, Forever in a Day, Maternal Instinct (not exhaustive)
• The Tollan: Enigma, Pretense, Between Two Fires
• NID/Maybourne: Not going to bother.
• Hathor: Hathor, Out of Mind, Into the Fire
• Robert Kinsey: Politics, Chain Reaction, Disclosure, Smoke and Mirrors, Inauguration, Lost City, finally Full Alert
• Finding the Tok'ra: In the Line of Duty, Need, The Tok'ra
• Nirrti: Singularity, Fair Game, The Rite of Passage, Metamorphosis
• Sokar: Serpent's Song, Demons, Jolinar's Memories, The Devil You Know
• The Replicators: Fair Game (mentioned), Nemesis, Small Victories, Enemies, The Menace; from here begins the Fifth/Replicator Carter subarc: Unnatural Selection, New Order, Gemini, Reckoning
• Osiris: The Curse, Summit/Last Stand, Chimera
• Tanith: Crossroads, Between Two Fires, 48 Hours
• The Ancients/Ascension: The Fifth Race, Maternal Instinct, Ascension, Meridian, Abyss (slightly), Full Circle, Lost City, Avalon/Origin, Prototype, The Fourth Horseman
• Anubis (I will only include where we learn new info about Anubis): Between Two Fires (mentioned but not by name), Summit/Last Stand (mentioned by name), Fail-safe, Revelations, Full Circle, Fallen, Evolution, Lost City, Lockdown, Reckoning, Threads, and (sort of ) Prototype
• Baal: Summit, Abyss, New Order (mentioned), Reckoning, Ex Deus Machina

And others!

In addition, there is one very interesting SG-1/Atlantis combined story arc: Letters from Pegasus, Moebius, The Siege (parts 2 and 3)--LD 18:00, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I was also thinking that episodes should classified but their over all classification such as:

• Heavy Plot - Episodes that realy push the overal plot forward (e.g. Threads)
• Fluff - Episodes that have no bearing on the overall plot (e.g. The Ties That Bind)
• Time Travel - Episodes involving time travel (e.g. Moebius (Part 1))
• And I'm sure there is more we can think of

Argash

Non-System Lords Goa'uld

I saw the System Lord article has a list of all known System Lords. However, there are Goa'uld that aren't System Lords (Tanith comes to mind) and that haven't enough info on them to warrant their own article. Should we add them to the Goa'uld article, or perhaps it would be better to create a list of their own? Something called "Goa'uld characters in Stargate" or something like that? --Andromeda 02:43, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

"Lord Monte" as well. uh, lets try not to clutter things up. I reckon they should go into the Goa'uld article as a list at the bottom. Something like:

• Lord Monte: seen here, killed here.

--alfakim 12:27, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

I had the same idea; perhaps it might be a good idea to include additional information, such as:

• "Lord Zipacna: First seen ____; worked for Anubis. Argued Klorel's case in Tollan Triad. Commanded Goa'uld assault on the Tok'ra base on Vorash. Based on Mayan god Zipacna. Last seen ____"

or perhaps

• "Nerus: First seen_____; worked for Baal as a scientist. Apparently he, not Baal, discovered how to dial all Stargates in the galaxy at once. Lured SG-1 into an Ori trap. Voracious appetite. Apparently based on Roman emperor Nero. Currently working as forced intellectual labor at Area 51." --LD August 29, 2005

this idea is fine by me, but i'm not bothered by it so i wont be doing the writing! i think a detailed list at the end of Goa'uld is cool.

Ok, an initial version of the list is up at the Goa'uld page. There's also a list of known Jaffa at the Jaffa article. Comments? --Andromeda 23:12, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

I just noticed that you missed all the good bits on Nerus. I intend to remedy that. --LD 01:31, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

HELP!: Core characters in need of update.

For example, Daniel Jackson's article basically ends at the beginning of Season 8. I'd like to do it, but simply I don't have the time. LD 01:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Stargate canon?

Would one of you fine people be interested in adding a Stargate section to canon (fiction)? I know that the animated series isn't canon, and bits of the film have been retconned in the TV series, but I don't know anything about how books, comics, etc. are treated within Stargate fandom. I'd stub the paragraph up myself, but I know very little about Stargate fandom and would probably make some dreadful mistake. :)

Thanks in advance to whoever picks up this challenge! —Josiah Rowe 07:22, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Stargate Technology

I'd like to volunteer to help out on this project. I run a stargate technology website (its linked in my profile) and have information and analysis to help add. Alyeska 19:37, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

All you have to do is add your name to the list and check out this article: Technology in the Stargate universe

--Zxcvbnm 22:31, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

who else is unhappy with the massive "See also" sections that have been added?

see title. i really dont think every page needs a see also link to every other stargate major page. those see also's pretty much get irrelevent 80% of the time.

See also sections should be strictly relevent: eg for "Daniel Jackson" article, something like: "See also: Stargate, SG-1, Ascension."

if you guys agree, i'd like to revert a lot of those additions of massive see also lists. --Alfakim-- talk 16:05, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Alfakim, I've reverted the Wraith (Stargate) article which contained the massive "see also" section and have contacted the user in question. To be honest with you, I would go ahead and revert or prune the see also sections to something pertinent. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. ^{Think out loud} 16:09, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Reverting it sounds good to me. Double idea:

1. If we keep the see also list, let's make it a template to make editing a lot easier?

2. If we revert it, just create a "List of Stargate Topics" page, or a sub-page of the project, or SOMETHING to get all that "See also" content without the space requirement? Staxringold 02:34, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

It did seem awfully big, so yeah, a template would be better, if it's needed at all.

—wwoods 06:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Out of sheer curiosity--whose bright idea was that? LD 22:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

No idea. Nonetheless, I created a new Stargate Topics template to make easy browsing (and added it to the technology template to automatically add it to all articles that already have that template). Staxringold 23:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I just want to say sorry because I was the one who added the massive sections. I was just trying to help. I removed them all once I saw people were displeased. I don't know how to make a template, so thanks for making one. It sure is easier than what I was doing. Sorry if I caused you guys any trouble, just trying to help. Right now ill spread this template to any pages that need it. Thanks and sorry. Tobyk777 05:00, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

By adding this new template to other templates, such as recuring charcters, I have able to spread it to hundereds of stargate pages. I think this template belongs on every stargate page we have. Tobyk777 05:19, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I am overall unhappy with all of this "mass-interlinking". Why does every page need to link to every other? The "Topics in Stargate" template is woefully inadequate to capture the topics in Stargate; it seems like more of an "Obscure Articles in Stargate" template. Pages automatically interlink anyway, because every article has a whole load of internal links. You don't need a list of irrelevent links anywhere on a page. If necessary, there can be ONE See also link: "Stargate topics", which then takes you to the page that lists all the articles. --Alfakim-- talk 13:29, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

What would you like to see added? Tomer^talk 17:41, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Rework of Death glider

Hi, I just did a rework of the article Death glider. I found the orginal hard to read, messy unorganized, and not wikified. I think I fixed all the problems with it. I know I have gotten criticism here lately so I just want to see what you guys think. Tobyk777 23:23, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Good job! There were a few niggling errors, and I figured it might be a good idea to add a few potential wikifications that you probably just overlooked, but I've seen worse. Keep up the good work! Lockesdonkey 21:45, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

It sure looks much better than back when I started the article. 22:55, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Format of Technology Articles

I think we need a atandard form for the devices and technology articeles, especially the intro section. I propose something similar to the following:

In the fictional Stargate universe, X is a device... <brief description>

<How it works>

<What it is used for>

<history of device, if it exists (X-302 → X-303)>

This information may not be available in all cases, but we should at leat put in as much as possible.

SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 00:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Converting tech articles to this fromat would require us to completely rewrite almost every one. It would be better your way, but I think it's good enough as it is, and would be too hard to convert them all. Tobyk777 05:21, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Stargate Wikistory

On a lighter note everyone, join in with this!

Orginization of pages

Hi after I just spent 2 hours linking and organizing pages on stargate I realized that their was a Stargate project. I just joined, yet in my time organing the database, I saw that all the Stargate ones are jumbled. I think Every charcter page needs the charcter template, every tech page the tech template, etc. Also the templates themselves are not complete. I spent hours working on these problems today, but it's more than one person can do.

What I did that was good but people need to do a lot more of:

• All races pages have the races template.
• Almost every stargate page has the general Stargate template. A few more still need it.
• I expanded the chracter and race templates.
• I put the following on all tech and race pages. This needs to go on every page.
  • Stargate Atlantis
  • Stargate SG-1
  • List of known Stargates
  • List of Stargate planets
  • Alien races in the Stargate universe
  • Human civilizations in Stargate SG-1
  • Human civilizations in Stargate Atlantis
  • Technology in the Stargate universe
  • List of Stargate SG-1 episodes (provides full chronology of the plot)
  • List of Stargate Atlantis episodes (provides full chronology of the plot)
  • Stargate - general information on the Stargate universe
    • I also put this list on every page in this list.
  • I added more to the Goa'uld catagory.

Our Stargate database is thurough, it just isn't organized. Every page needs to be catagorized, and every page needs to link to every relevant page, as well as the main lists. Every page also needs it's apropiate template, and the templates needs to be complete.

I will continue working on these problems, but I need help. Thanks Tobyk777 03:13, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Articles to be merged

After editing Telchak, I realized that I had edited a very similar article before. I turns out that Telchak and Telchak (Stargate) Are almost identical. I am not sure how this duplication was created. they should be merged and one should be redirected into the other. I am not sure how to form redirects myself, so I am putting it here, requesting that someone else does. Tobyk777 02:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I have added the merge tag for both articles, so it should be taken care of soon.

(Opes 03:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC))

Doci to Prior

Since Doci is a stub, and the Doci are stated as being leaders of the Priors in the Ori article; I suggest that the Doci article be merged with the Prior article, then the Doci article should be deleted.

Lady Aleena 23:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Aurora (Stargate) and Orion (Stargate)

First, THANK YOU CANADIANS for this heads-up. Somehow, I think we should reorganize these articles along the lines of Daedalus class battlecruiser, with general information about the type of ships (very large, high-quality self-destruct, stasis pods with virtual-environment capability, used Drone Weapons, etc.), and then each individual ship's story. The ideal place for this would be as Aurora-class Battleship. Comments? Lockesdonkey 21:37, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Yep, I believe that they can fit into one article, they are not very detailed articles since there is not much info on them.--Zxcvbnm 00:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Flames of Enlightenment and Ori (Stargate)

I think that Flames of Enlightenment should be merged into the Ori article, since it is only a stub and the Flames are the Ori themself. Diabound00 13:18, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Lady Aleena 19:03, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

The Flames of Enlightenment is cruft; there is nothing you can say other than that they are flames, and they are the manifestation of the Ori. I merged it, since there seems to be a consensus--Zxcvbnm 00:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Opposition to Fictional Universes here

See: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive V #How_about:_Sectioning_off_of.2Fpossible_banning_of_Fictional_Universe_articles. I hope I am not in violation of WP:SPAM by informing talk pages of Fictional Universes about this thread. User:AlMac|^(talk) 14:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

• Everyone needs to vote agaisn't this rediculous proposal. This project will be deleted in it's entirity if this suceeds. Tobyk777 04:14, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• I will oppose it, but we will have to be very careful that we are not seen as raving lunatics as that ban suggestion implies. I will have to take a good look around at what has been done, but I will more than likely have suggestions soon. Lady Aleena | Talk 08:49, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Rand and Caledonia have a planet name

Rand and Caledonia have a planet name...Tegalas (my spelling may be wrong).

Lady Aleena 01:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. LD 20:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

sgspoiler-Template

Some people without real understanding of the template vote to delete it. As that is our topic I think we should participate in that decision and not let people who do not work on this WP decide. --SoWhy 21:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)