Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Television game shows task force/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

Importance and Class in the Game Show Banner

How does one set those up? They could be useful for our banner. FamicomJL (talk) 23:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Both have been set up. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 03:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Great work everyone! I like how this project is being taken seriously for the first time! :) FamicomJL (talk) 03:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

TVGS Main page

Okay, so the main page looks better than it did a couple of days ago, especially once I removed the inactive template...ha ha. Anyway, there's still clean up to be done, and if anyone would like to post suggestions of improvements to the main page, how to get things organize...speak up! --Son (talk) 17:48, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

It could be fleshed out a bit more. Some sections that have only like one sentence could be expanded to multiple paragraphs. The Game Show infobox might be too confusing, I don't know if that should be done. A regular Television infobox does a good enough job, a game show version would pretty much be no different at all. I also think that we should try to recruit other people, now that this project is getting up and running. And try to flesh out the members who haven't been in the project for awhile. I like the idea of getting people to fully sign their name when they join. The scope could be expanded. The title section is useless, I think. Descendent projects will be GREAT later on... I can imagine The Price is Right being the one descendent project that'll be needed when we have more members. The hierachy section might not be needed. The goals needs major expansion. Same for Projects and Tasks. The Adopt a Article section looks fine, but we might not want to do that until we get more members, especially ones who know how to add sources and citations, since that's what Good Article and Featured Article reviewers are now pretty much looking for. The infoboxes section needs clean-up. Same for the categories section. Everything else looks fine. FamicomJL (talk) 20:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with how game show articles are currently organized, but one of the first things we should do here is set up a structure that is the same or similar to the current layout of articles under the scope of this project. As for editors that know how to add citations... I can't speak for most of the participants but I can assure you that Son, Scott5114, and myself (through our experience at WP:USRD) are accustomed to adding reliable citations to articles, so that won't be a problem. We (in my opinion) also need to clarify the scope a little more - are we including articles models on game shows (such as the one on former The Price Is Right model Janice Pennington) within our project? The scope given right now seems like it covers these articles (which is correct IMO), but I'm unsure, hence why I haven't tagged the articles on Barker's Beauties yet. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 09:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I tend to think that anything related to game shows is under the project banner, so go ahead and tag the articles on Barker's Beauties. I added the tag to The Paley Center for Media, and to game show hosts. And good to here people who can do citations are in this group besides me. This will make the article collaborations of the week MUCH easier to do. FamicomJL (talk) 21:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm fine with that, I just hope it's not too overwhelming.

Additionally, as for creating the standard article, we should probably get to that right away. --Son (talk) 14:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Garry Moore

I have nominated the Garry Moore article to be a Good Article Candidate. Let's hope it gets passed! FamicomJL (talk) 21:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

It has passed! :) FamicomJL (talk) 04:57, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

TVGS "logo"

I have created this icon for the Project Banner. It is currently saved as a jpeg image, because I was having trouble converting to an SVG file. I have a post on the Graphics Lab page to get assistance. What do you think?—Twigboy (talk) 04:56, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I made this one a week ago and forgot to post it here. It's an SVG with a DoND case, a Free Spin from WoF, a TPiR price tag, and a signalling device intended to represent Jeopardy!. Could probably use polish (shanding and such) by someone who's actually an artist.—Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 05:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

The idea of combining effects from different shows seems pretty cool. I actually like both, but I'd use Scott's for the logo of the project, and find another use for Twigboy's. --Son (talk) 00:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I second that. Maybe we could use Scott's for the project banner and Twigboy's for the/a project userbox? --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 01:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I created templates using both images here. Let me know what you think. --Son (talk) 16:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I like Scott's best, personally. Twigboy's could be used for the group userbox.FamicomJL (talk) 05:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hope nobody minds, but I went ahead and swapped them out. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 22:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Assessment of current game shows

I was on the page for Duel, and saw that Son has assessed it as "Current" class on the quality scale. I think that's a great idea. Maybe we should make it so that shows that are less than a few months old get that as their quality scale ranking, or something like that? What do you guys think? FamicomJL (talk) 05:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Current/Future is used as a stability indicator in other projects. If the article is more than stub, but is subject to wholesale revisions, then Current applies, because the assessment could change for better or for worse in a short span. I don't think that current should remain for very long. In the instance of Duel, it should likely be classed appropriately once the first round of episodes is complete.—Twigboy (talk) 15:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah, the Current-class assessment. I chose that because I felt there was no better tag to use. I could tag it as Start-class, but given that only 2 episodes have aired, I thought that the tag didn't fit. My thought on the Current-class is that it would only apply to game shows that are in its first season. Beyond the first season, the article should be stable enough to get a standard Start-class, B-class, whatever rating.

As for the Future-class, I'm not sure there's much use for it in our project. It's better applied in films and video games that have long-term developments and periodic announcements. --Son (talk) 00:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Didn't know that there was such a thing as "current-class" until I saw this. Now that I've seen it, my position is that it should only be used on articles that are too volatile/unstable to get a fair quality rating. Once it stables out, then replace it with a standard class assessment. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 01:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I believe tagging Current-class for Duel (US game show) was appropriate, since the game itself has yet to run its course once from start to finish. Because it is not a complete article, and "stub" was clearly not appropriate, it could not receive a letter grade pending the completion of the article. If after the completion of one game cycle the article still needs work, then Start would apply. As for Future, it doesn't really differ from Current, as it's just a stability flag. For example, you could class Amnesia (game show) as future. Oh snap! Redlink? We've got some work to do :) —Twigboy (talk) 04:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I've found that a number of projects use a Current-class. If you go to WP:TVGS/A, I added Current-class based off what the Comics project uses as their standard. I suppose a Future-class could be added. --Son (talk) 06:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Watch out, Betacommandbot's about

Just a friendly note to those of you working on this project to double-check screencaps placed on your favorite shows' articles. Articles missing a fair-use rationale can be tagged by Betacommandbot, and if a rationale isn't provided, they'll be deleted. Watch for the bot and fix the rationales should an image get tagged! —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 08:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll definitely make sure to add rationales when the warnings come up. FamicomJL (talk) 22:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:PROD-nominated articles

I have added a cross-link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Television#Television Proposed deletions in the section Wikipedia:WikiProject Television Game Shows#Deletion links. This note is both a notification of this action and a request to Project Members to weigh in on whether they believe this is a good or poor idea. If you feel it is especially bad or bad form to have done this - please feel free to revert my addition. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Pyramid (game show)

Regarding Pyramid (game show), that article is currently a mess. Do you think that you could help by trimming some of the cruft (we don't need to know about the joke Winner's Circle on the last ep of $20K, funny as it was) and re-adding some info on how the game is actually played? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 04:54, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the article is a MAJOR trivia induced mess... but atleast it looks better than it did a few months ago. A lot of the cruft is gone, at least. I actually think adding references for the article might be your best bet right now. And Yeah, I really don't know why the guy prodded the gameplay article without asking us if we wanted to take any of the info and trim it for the main article. Best we can do is get someone who really knows the game well, and can sum it up in a few paragraphs or less. FamicomJL (talk) 16:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

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Articles flagged for cleanup

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Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? (U.S. game show) GAR

I have nominated Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? (U.S. game show) for good article reassessment as I feel that it no longer meets the good article criteria. Feel free to leave comments on the talk page. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 12:12, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Game show

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Userbox and newsletter?

Can someone create a Userbox for this group? Also, like most WikiProject groups I'm a member of, they usually give out newsletters to users' Talkpages who are members of the group at least once a month. Can someone be in charge of providing a newsletter providing important dates in game show history and as well as project progress? Thanks, WM-86 13:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Camouflage (2007 TV series)

This article doesn't look at its best to me; it is not within any WikiProject scopes. Its talk page only consists of an unsigned question from July 2008. The article also has an empty 'References' section. Can this be trimmed up a bit? SchfiftyThree ^(talk!) 22:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

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Participation

I would like to participate in this project. Do I just add my name to the list?Stjimmy61892 (talk) 19:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

New Member

I'm new to the project, and just thought I would introduce myself. Sean (talk || contribs) 05:13, 25 December 2009 (UTC)