Wikipedia talk:Wikimedia Foundation/Archive 1

Archive 1

Lock

Please lock this redirect (cf Wikipedia:Wikimedia) 16@r (talk) 15:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

It's now currently unlocked, if it matters. Biosthmors (talk) 10:21, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

There are a lot of Wikipedia space links that go to the English Wikipedia article Wikimedia Foundation

See here. Many should probably be pointed here (WP:WMF) instead. Biosthmors (talk) 11:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Agree. We should probaly update many of the links. 64.40.54.75 (talk) 01:54, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Request here currently stalled for some reason, but hopefully it proceeds soon! Biosthmors (talk) 08:36, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

O well. Guess it was a bad idea. Biosthmors (talk) 19:39, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Reorganizing

I'm going to WP:BOLDly reorganize this page. Everybody is free to revert per WP:BRD if they think my additions are unhelpful. 64.40.54.75 (talk) 02:39, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the links! I did edit out the perceived marketing-speak. Is there a long-term development goal timeline? I'd love to see real time collaborative editing eventually (like google docs). Hell, why not even have it open so that people can see the stroke marks as they happen. That would make it more interactive. =) Biosthmors (talk) 08:32, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Hypothetically, that's a goal, per mw:Wikimedia Engineering/2013-14 Goals#VisualEditor and mw:VisualEditor/Realtime collaboration and mw:Future/Real-time collaboration and mw:Engineering/Product Strategy Offsite (#7). Afaik, the complexity is partially in how the "diffs" get handled - we can't save a diff for every single keystroke... They're definitely wanting to deal with it though, and have been brainstorming for years. –Quiddity (talk) 20:08, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Is there a long-term development goal timeline?" The most long-term plan I know of is the 5 year plan from 2010 at strategy:Task force/Strategy/Plan overview, but there may be others I am unaware of. 64.40.54.22 (talk) 21:34, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Will add. Biosthmors (talk) 18:47, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
    • Is "some examples of ideas a Board can provide" better phrased in another way? I don't know the history behind those drafts. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 18:52, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm. Let me start over. The 5 year plan at strategy:Task force/Strategy/Plan overview was a beginning overview kinda thing. It morphed and split in to many other projects as details were added. It's not really used any more and in fact strategy: has been closed for a year or more. But the big goals (like increasing the number of editors, improving the infrastructure, etc.) are still in place. That's kinda where the WP:VisualEditor, WP:WMFLabs and other things came from. Hope that makes more sense. 64.40.54.22 (talk) 04:12, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Reception section

I have something of a concern about the reception section. I'm a bit uncomfortable mentioning specific users on this page. Might I suggest that we instead mention the issue rather than a particular user. We could link to Wikitravel#Community fork in 2012, Internet Brands#Wikitravel and Wikimedia and perhaps Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-09-10/Special report. These give context to the issue so the reader can understand the situation as opposed to just mentioning a name. Just a thought. I'd like to hear other people's opinion. Thanks. 64.40.54.104 (talk) 03:54, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

That's a bit too nebulous. Let me reprhase. We could say "the WMF has helped users that faced legal problems that occured because of their editing of Wikimedia projects" and link to the above mentioned articles. Sorry for not being more specific. 64.40.54.104 (talk) 04:05, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Why didn't I notice these comments before? Sorry. Ping me if I don't get around to addressing your points. Also please be bold in fixing it as well. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 22:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

The section could of course be expanded, please feel free to do so. I can't do everything myself on Wikipedia. =) This is the place anyone can edit. Please be wp:bold. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 09:28, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

New category

We should have a Category:Volunteer accounts of people who work or have worked for WMF. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:37, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Isn't that a bit kind of privacy violation? People will know more than these people may have a higher degree of conflict of interests. Chongkian (talk) 04:11, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Reorganizing part 2

@Biosthmors: I'm looking at significantly restructing this page. As in rewriting, changing sections and much more. I'd like to discuss it here first. I know you'd like some WMF contact info and general information, but what other information are you looking to convey to the volunteers here. If you could provide me with a bulleted list of things you want, that would help greatly. Thanks. 64.40.54.157 (talk) 01:49, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

What leaves you dissatisfied? I was thinking it was shaping up quite nicely. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 08:10, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

@Biosthmors: it is shaping up nicely. It's just that it seems more special interest than general interest. It reads more like it's tailored to an audience of 10 rather than an audience of 10,000. For example, how many people want to know that I said WMF emplotees work too many hours? My guess would be 2 or 3 at most. Typically, pages like this describe things that editors would want to know that can't be included in our article on the Foundation. For example, they would want to know when voting occurs for Board members and other similar things. Perhaps later I'll make some changes so you can see what I mean. 64.40.54.76 (talk) 02:31, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for saying that. I removed what you said. Do you want to link anything specific about when the next board elections are? I did just find wmf:Resolutions and I will add that. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 10:57, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

The kids?

I must be missing something with this "the kids" nickname. What is this based on? Also, I'm glad that you've altered it, but what was the thinking behind labeling the WMF the "Evil Empire"? The Interior (Talk) 18:44, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

I agree, I didn't understand either one of those either. A name such as "the kids" or "the evil empire" would need a valid reference for its existence. Steel1943 (talk) 21:06, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

There was a thread at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 106#"Evil Empire" as Wikipedia slang for "Wikimedia Foundation". Both suggestions came from there. I'm not 100% thrilled with WP:HQ as a shortcut, but I don't mind it. WP:The kids, however, was just silly. No harm in leaving the redirect if that makes someone happy, but it doesn't belong here. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:17, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

I can agree with that: references to slang terms such as could almost be considered slanderous. That, and newer users would not benefit from those being shortcuts, given that the likelihood of a new user typing "WP:THEKIDS" or "WP:EVILEEMPIRE" or versions with spaces is very unlikely. By the way, I created the shortcut WP:HQ given that it could actually be searched by a new user looking up information for the "headquarters for Wikipedia." With that being said, if any of the aforementioned redirects in this comment were nominated for redirects for discussion (with the exception of WP:HQ), I would most likely vote for them to be deleted, provided that there is not a history of edits that relate to the redirects that could validate them still existing (edit histories, the redirects used to be articles, etc.) Steel1943 (talk) 22:23, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Slanderous? Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 12:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

See, that's the thing: this page is not really clear if it is supposed to be a serious page in the Wikipedia space or a page for humor; trying to mix both of the concepts together can confuse readers on what is supposed to be serious, and what is sarcasm. Steel1943 (talk) 16:16, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Isn't that what ^[sarcasm] is for? ;-) Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 10:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Sourcing

Sourcing of information would probably be helpful here. It's hard to tell where stuff like this comes from. We have somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 jobs listed at wmf:Work with us (not all of these are vacancies - for example, our Executive Director is kindly sticking around until the role is well filled) and our current staff count is 192. (See wmf:Frequently asked questions#If I donate to the Wikimedia Foundation, where does my money go?) If you consider adding sources, people will be easily able to determine where such details originate. :) --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 13:13, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

(Wondering if the numbers of staff is confusion between the types of employees at WMF? The 192 count includes all staff and contractors listed at wmf:Staff and contractors and is auto-generated. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 13:20, 18 November 2013 (UTC))

Thanks. I think that clarifies things. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 14:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm...

That was not a minor edit. Can we get a source? Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 13:45, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Done, but seriously? Everyone knows the proposal came from Sue, there's a huge box telling you that on top of most FDC pages; and it take 2 min to find the statement on the WMF website. Anyway, dealt with now. --Nemo 09:48, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for adding that. I wasn't aware. New Wikipedians who might stumble upon the page won't know either, so I appreciate you taking the time. I originally reverted because it seemed like a dig at Gardner. (In retrospect, "Hogwash" as a section title is too strong so I'm replacing it with "Hmmm...", FWIW.) Thanks again Nemo. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 17:02, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

WMF typo on vimeo.com/wmfoundation

Hi, on your official Vimeo channel vimeo.com/wmfoundation there's the defunct link wikimediafoundation.og instead of _.org. Could be helpful to fix that :) --.js (talk) 21:33, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Fixed, thank you. :-) Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 01:21, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

A panel at San Diego Comic-Con?

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject San Diego# Comic-Con Panel ideas discussion. Thanks. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 07:09, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject for Wikimedia Foundation

FYI, see a proposal at WT:WikiProject Wikipedia -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Is there anyone who can remove that offensive site?

Dear editors, I would like to ask you about something of interest to WMF relating to site "Janevistan" (see about case[1]). It has not been resolved yet by Jimbo (see Talk Page), but as I can see we have here fundamental violations and disrespect of the Wiki Terms of Use, including the rule of civility. "Janevistan" is a text full of violations, such as, racial offences, brutal insults and mockery about Macedonia and Macedonians, plus harassment, death threat(s), and violations of basic procedures, and all other blatant stuff, and this site was actually protected by local administrators ! Please see history of the page Janevistan [2] i.e. Template (delete|racial offences, insults and mockery about Macedonia, Macedonians and the state of the Republic of Macedonia, harassment, massive abuse and massive trolling, defamations, disruptive and superflous edits and disrespect of the Terms of Use [3]), and than see the active protection of that site by the sh.wiki admins. (Plus, Janevistan appears as a regular page [4].) Is there anyone who can remove that offensive site? Sincerely yours,178.222.77.248 (talk) 05:01, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Fully protected edit request on 2 August 2017

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 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 15:07, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much, xaosflux!  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  05:33, 6 August 2017 (UTC)