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Putin's Wiki-censor

Kind of funny to see the Russian government putting so much effort into their own propaganda Wikipedia knockoff. They don't like the facts, so they created their own EncyCopedia. Allan Nonymous (talk) 15:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Linked to on 404 Media. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Taylor Tomlinson hosts a wikirace on live TV – again !

• Imagine if the After Midnight staff found out about this shout-out for real, though... Live TV, here we come! : D --Oltrepier (talk) 17:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

• Taylor Tomlinson is great! I recommend that anyone check out her stand-up sets on YouTube if you haven't yet. Quercus solaris (talk) 22:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

In brief

• For the "King of Wikipedia" bit, there was the opportunity to write something like "the King of Rock and Roll, the king of the UK, and the King of the Jews." Would've been such a satisfying sentence! ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 14:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
  • @Maplestrip: Well Cheesy Chuck seems to have 139, but I wouldn't want to write anything in poor taste. I suppose we could have worked something in about zombies seen in Michigan being all shook up, but I'll leave that for the NY Post, Fox and other Murdoch outlets. Murdoch only has a score of 75, so he wouldn't qualify as king of anything. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 19:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
    • Ok I've bee trying to parse this message all day. What is "Cheesy Chuck" and what do zombies have to do with anything? What's with the sudden mention of American news agencies? ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

      I'm fairly certain Cheesy Chuck refers to the king of England. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

      What's cheesy about Charles Windsor? Just because he complains about badly behaving fountain pens? -- llywrch (talk) 15:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

• Mildly surprised Netanyahu the Younger's article was not redirected to his father's as a valid alternative to deletion. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:42, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
  • @Rotideypoc41352: You're correct. Haaretz stated it as

"Hebrew Wikipedia Votes to Remove Entry on PM Netanyahu's Son Following His Request" (headline)

"The community of Hebrew Wikipedia editors voted 75-54 to merge Avner Netanyahu's page into that of the Netanyahu family after the Israeli prime minister's son requested that his entry be removed earlier this month" (lede), so the lede is more technically correct and you are right. It's about the same IMHO because apparently there was almost nothing to merge - just something about what football team he cheers for. I do have problems getting around in Hebrew in translation and Haaretz tends to link to their own stories rather than Wikipedia. And of course HeWiki rules are a bit different and the way it's expressed in translation is slightly different. Sorry. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

• There is no redirect at he:אבנר נתניהו, though. And you are right that since HeWiki rules are a bit different and the way it's expressed in translation is slightly different, the machine translations of the deletion discussion at he:ויקיפדיה:רשימת מועמדים למחיקה/אבנר נתניהו2 are of little help. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  • I can't help musing "So, that's 2 articles about him in Haaretz... en-WP WP:N approaching..." Then again, IMO it makes a bit of sense to somewhat disregard such coverage for WP:N purposes. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
• So, nothing on Maher? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: The news came out very late in the writing process, but I'm pretty sure we're going to cover it soon. Oltrepier (talk) 07:27, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@Oltrepier: You have done a lot of great work for the Signpost in recent months, but let's avoid such misleading comments. (Gråbergs Gråa Sång commented earlier in the newsroom discussion, so they are probably well aware that this was not a mere timing issue.) Regards, HaeB (talk) 09:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@HaeB: You're right, I should have addressed the discussion in the first place, and overall I've articulated myself very badly, so I apologize for it. Oltrepier (talk) 10:18, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Some more press on Maher:[1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• • I'd suggest using Avner Netanyahu --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 22:57, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
• Regarding the Baidu Baike closing their app, the report noted that "The Beijing-based, Hong Kong-listed company will end support for the app on June 30 to focus on “better user experiences”, according to a statement published on the Baike app on Wednesday. Users can continue to access the service through a mini-program on the main Baidu app". So they will only close Baidu Baike app, rather than Baidu Baike the entire website. Thanks. --SCP-2000 03:29, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

  Yeah, I was kind of confused about this -- the source article didn't seem to make any distinction between a phone app and a website. jp×g🗯️ 20:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  It says Users can continue to access the service through a mini-program on the main Baidu app, it said., which is why I have since edited this article to only mention that the mobile standalone app is (definitely) going down. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

  It was a little confusing, because it was also kind of implying the whole thing was over, and referring to Baike in the past tense (e.g. "Baike’s traffic came mostly from mainland China"). jp×g🗯️ 04:58, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Medeyko

I appreciate the brief summary, but I have more questions than answers. Was Medeyko always a Russian "agent', or was he "turned" at some point? Did he have a choice or was he threatened? And was it inevitable that someone like this would end up running Wikimedia Russia? Further, why was the organization dissovled in December? Couldn't it be run from outside the country by expatriates? Frontline covered a similar issue last year by journalists who were against the idea of operating outside of Russia, IIRC. Viriditas (talk) 21:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

News organizations can operate outside of Russia, but an organization dedicated to organizing events inside Russia such as WMFRu definitely cannot, as that would prevent it from doing anything. Aaron Liu (talk) 21:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

We never know but it looks like his primary interest in running Wikimedia.ru was to get financial benefits. When he saw an opportunity to get bigger financial benefits from the state he immediately moved to grab it, I do not think he cared much about Wikipedia or Wikipedia movement, at least not of the aspects which did not (indirectly) result in getting money from it. Ymblanter (talk) 05:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Dean Preston

I took the liberty of fixing the supervisor's affiliation - while lowercase "socialist" would also be accurate, he's not a member of any organizations that would lead to his description as a plain, capitalized "Socialist". Abeg92contribs 21:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jonathan Seagullis.jpg

On Commons, there is a discussion whether a file used by The Signpost is demeaning to the subject. Abzeronow (talk) 21:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)