Talk:Škoda Octavia
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Taxi
editFor some reason, many Spanish taxis are Octavias. Do you know why? --84.20.17.84 17:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think the Laura is the 2nd Generation Octavia and not the facelifted 1st Generataion Octavia. Adhishb 03:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- In UK are also taxis Octavias ...cose is one of best cars. I got one too : Octavia 1999 model 2 liter petrol and car going very well..— Preceding unsigned comment added by Marek.kvackaj (talk • contribs) 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- These cars are popular for taxis because they're relatively cheap and stable, and with the Diesel bare use any fuel. The trunks are large and easy to fill. This is also a very popular taxi in Israel as well, besides the Mercedes.Saxophonemn (talk) 11:45, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- In UK are also taxis Octavias ...cose is one of best cars. I got one too : Octavia 1999 model 2 liter petrol and car going very well..— Preceding unsigned comment added by Marek.kvackaj (talk • contribs) 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Small vs. Large Family car?
editThere seems to be some controversy about how to classify the Octavia. Is it a "small" or a "large" family car. Instead of battling it out, why not simply change the article to reflect the fact that the Octavia is classified into different categories by different bodies? Ged fi 13:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- No, it is just a small family car. Although by length 4572 mm is one of the longest, by its wheelbase only 2578 mm (exactly as VW Golf) and other parameters (equipment, luxury, price, engines, etc.) it is nowhere near the Mondeo/Vectra/Passat triple. --Ondrejsv (talk) 16:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- Is that fact or merely your opinion on the matter? If you can produce a factual classification of family car sizes based on length/wheelbase then that's a different matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.53.46.33 (talk) 08:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
A year ago, Octavia was a large car. The new Octavia is larger than before, and now it is a small car. The measure of how large the car is should be the interior space available, not the price, or a Porche 911 would be a very large car indeed. The Fabia is a small family car, the Octavia is mid sized. The Superb is only slightly larger than the Octavia, and it is classified as a large car. Please change classification of Octavia to Mid-sized Family Car. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.95.127.230 (talk) 20:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- According to Volkswagen Platform usage, it is NOT large family car nor a compact executive. Audi A4 is compact executive.120.140.168.244 (talk) 03:16, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Specialised magazines will say its a segement D model, therefore a medium size familiar as per auto car and car design reviews. It as actually been a segment D since I remember it's first incarnation 15 years ago.Learningnave (talk) 14:39, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Could you provide some references for that from those websites, or others, please? I searched them and did not find any news to claim this fact. I found instead this article on the Car Design News website, which quotes: "Clearly its main focus is on providing spacious, practical and hardy family transport and the Octavia is better equipped in this regard than anything else in the C-segment. The major part of this advantage comes from the fact it's closer to the D-segment in size at 4,659mm long - 90mm longer than the car it replaces, with a 108mm increase in wheelbase." Furthermore, I also found this article on the Škoda Auto official website, which says: "For the fourth time in a row, the readers of ‘auto, motor und sport’ award the title of ‘best compact import car’ to the ŠKODA OCTAVIA in Germany. The ŠKODA OCTAVIA is once again the No. 1 amongst the import vehicles in the compact car segment."
- I am aware that the EuroNCAP website classifies all the Octavia models as large family cars. However, I will bring some technical arguments to this dispute. The Škoda Octavia third generation is 4,66 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,69 m. The contemporary (2013, the year it was introduced) small family cars (compact cars) have the following dimensions (for the sedan body style): the Volkswagen Jetta (VI) is 4,64 m in length, wheelbase of 2,65 m; the Ford Focus (III) is 4,53 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,65 m; the Opel Astra (J) is 4,66 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,69 m; the Citroën C4 (II) is 4,62 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,71 m; the Renault Fluence is 4,62 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,70 m; the Fiat Linea (based on a B-segment, supermini platform) is 4,56 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,60 m; the Toyota Corolla (XI) is 4,62 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,70 m. For comparison, the contemporary (2013) large family cars have the following dimensions: the Volkswagen Passat (VII) is 4,77 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,71 m; the Ford Mondeo (IV) is 4,87 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,85 m; the Opel Insignia is 4,83 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,73 m; the Citroën C5 (II) is 4,78 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,82 m; the Peugeot 508 is 4,79 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,82 m; the Renault Laguna (III) is 4,70 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,76 m; the Tyotoa Avensis (III) is 4,70 m in length, with a wheelbase of 2,70 m. In my opinion, the figures speak clearly the fact that the dimensions of the Škoda Octavia third generation are closer to those of the contemporary small family cars (compact cars) than to those of the large family cars. BaboneCar (talk) 02:25, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Below is a table of dimensions for similar compact cars and compact executive ones, all in sedan body style. (A similar discussion has taken place at Talk:Škoda Superb#Large family car (D-segment) or Executive car (E-segment)?):
Model Length (mm) Wheelbase (mm) Škoda Octavia (2005) 4,569 2,578 Škoda Octavia (2013) 4,659 2,686 Compact executive cars Audi A4 (2008) 4,703 2,808 Audi A4 (2015) 4,726 2,820 BMW 3 Series (2004) 4,520 2,760 BMW 3 Series (2011) 4,620 2,810 Mercedes-Benz C-Class (2007) 4,582 2,760 Mercedes-Benz C-Class (2014) 4,686 2,840 Compact cars Volkswagen Jetta (2006) 4,554 2,580 Volkswagen Jetta (2011) 4,644 2,650 Ford Focus (2004) 4,480 2,640 Ford Focus (2011) 4,534 2,648 Opel/Vauxhall Astra (2004) 4,587 2,703 Opel/Vauxhall Astra (2009) 4,658 2,685 Opel/Vauxhall Astra Wagon (2015) 4,702 2,662 Citroën C4 (2004) 4,770 2,710 Citroën C4 (2010) 4,621 2,710 Peugeot 308 (2007) Peugeot 308 (2013) Renault Mégane (2002) 4,695 2,756 Renault Mégane Estate (2008) 4,559 2,703 Renault Mégane (2016) 4,632 2,711 Toyota Corolla (2006) 4,540 2,600 Toyota Corolla (2013) 4,620 2,700 Honda Civic (2005) 4,488 2,700 Honda Civic (2011) 4,525 2,670 Mazda 3 (2009) 4,595 2,640 Mazda 3 (2013) 4,580 2,700 Mitsubishi Lancer (2007) 4,570 2,635 Mitsubishi Lancer (2017) 4,615 2,635 Chevrolet Cruze (2008) 4,597 2,685 Chevrolet Cruze (2016) US 4,666 2,700 Chevrolet Cruze (2016) China 4,567 2,662 Hyundai Elantra (2006) 4,505 2,650 Hyundai Elantra (2010) 4,530 2,700 Hyundai Elantra (2016) 4,570 2,700 Kia Cee'd SW (2006) 4,470 2,650 Kia Cee'd SW (2012) 4,505 2,650 Kia Ceed SW (2018)
contradiction A-Platform
editOk the octavia page says: "The second generation was introduced in 2004 based on the A platform also used by other Volkswagen Group cars, including the Audi A3 II, VW Golf V, SEAT León II, SEAT Altea, VW Golf Plus, VW Touran and VW Passat VI."
but if you go to the A-Platform page:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_A_platform it says that the Octavia uses the A4 platform which is not the same platform used by any of the cars listed on the octavia page. Could someone who knows check this out. I will check back later and if no one has fixed it within a week I am going to put the information i have, which is that the A-platform page is right and the quote will read:
"The second generation was introduced in 2004 based on the A4 platform also used by other Volkswagen Group cars, including the Audi A3 I, Audi TT I, VW Golf IV, VW Jetta/Bora IV, VW New Beetle, SEAT León, SEAT Toledo II." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drunkenduncan (talk • contribs) 03:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
The second generation is actually often referred to as "Octavia II", and it is indeed listed on the A-Platform page as using the A5 (PQ35) platform: "2005 Skoda Octavia II". AFAIK, this is correct — the Škoda Octavia II is built on the A5 platform. Ged fi 16:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
New Common Rail diesel engines
editWilliamh120 The older PD diesels are gradually being phased out across the Skoda range. The 1.9 by a new 1.6L unit, with the same performance but markedly lower emissions (as found in the new 2009 Polo). Meanwhile the 2.0L PD units are to be replaced by common rail ones as found in the Golf Mk6, although these are initially only available in the Octavia VRS. Not clear when other models in the Octavia range will have the 2L PD diesels replaced by the new CR units.
However, the new engines are apparently quieter, and offer lower emissions than the PD counterparts they're replacing.
Incidentally, the Fabia sadly doesn't get the new 1.6 diesel until its facelift next year.
Can the Skoda websites be considered sufficiently accurate as a source for the statistics so that we can add these to the article? These new engines are not yet mentioned in the article, and I think something needs to be done about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamh120 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Missing Fuel Description in Engine Size Designation
editIn the Article as of 2010-11-05, the engine descriptions for the 1.9 PD type is missing the fuel type. The Table has the fuel type for the 1.9T-PD engine as a Diesel Fueled Engine, but the text does not. Adding in the Fuel Type , as it would be relevant to the discussion and also to be consistant with the text on the 1.6L Petrol (Gasoline) engine. Richard416282 (talk) 14:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Original Octavia
editThere should be section about the original Octavia from 1960s the same way as it is here with Superb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_Superb, or maybe even merging with with this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_Octavia_(1959%E2%80%931971) is a good idea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.211.43.1 (talk • contribs) 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Engines
editThe engine section near the end seems a bit confusing, and doesn't have the newest engines.
Would it be possible that the long table be split up, so that it could be broken up by each facelift? Saxophonemn (talk) 11:48, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- Sure it's possible, go on;) Jirka.h23 (talk) 14:30, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Infobox
editI'm asking people which photo would be better for the infobox seeing that it has been changed. Once again, the image that be self-insert by the author (in my opinion) isn't that good. The angle is skewed, the composition is all out of proportion and most importantly, it didn't need to be replaced just because it the latest model. --Vauxford (talk) 15:32, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- The new one is quite poor it should definitely be replaced. Toasted Meter (talk) 17:20, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Toasted Meter That one was already used on the fourth generation infobox. --Vauxford (talk) 18:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- I was originally going to propose that one, then I saw it in the article and deleted my text about it but I forgot the image. Toasted Meter (talk) 18:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- The new one is patently unusable; the image of the white car should be restored. --Sable232 (talk) 21:18, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
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tables
editey your tables are all mixed up, some start with PS and have KW in parens, some start with KW and have PS in parens — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:4002:5490:BCF7:40CA:4152:EB6C (talk) 22:44, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Octavia
editOctavia is from the name of the sister of Augustus/Octavian Derwydd74 (talk) 03:14, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
The engine list is incomplete
editIt lacks a few for the Skoda Octavia Mark 3. Namely:
DADA |
CZCA |
CZDA |
https://mymotorlist.com/engines/volkswagen/ea211/dada/
https://mymotorlist.com/engines/volkswagen/ea211/czca/
https://mymotorlist.com/engines/volkswagen/ea211/czda/ Solbaertaerte (talk) 18:33, 21 June 2023 (UTC)