Talk:1776 (film)

Quotes

If we're going to include quotes, really we need to quote the things said about John Adams as they were a recurring theme of the film. Next time I watch it, I'll write some down and add. 24.188.207.20 (talk) 02:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Not a good idea. Trivia.DFS (talk) 05:41, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Fire and destruction of the sets

A giant fire destroyed much of the studio in 1970. Was 1776 filmed before or after the 1970 studio fire? When reading the cited sources, it appears that it was filmed in late 1971, maybe even early 1972. Was there another fire in the mid 70s? The timeline on this just isn't adding up to me, does anyone have additional insight? DFS (talk) 20:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone know if Blythe Danner actually sung He Plays The Violin?

Does anyone know if Blythe Danner actually sung He Plays The Violin in the film version of 1776, or was her voice dubbed by someone else? I know she comes from a musical family, and has a daughter who can also sing but I've never known her to be a singer before or since that movie was made. Also, the timbre of her speaking voice doesn't quite match her singing voice, the former - more in the sultry mezzo soprano range, and the latter - more in the "legit" soprano range. Such contrasts are not unheard of with singers but I have some suspicion, particularly in light of Hollywood's penchant for replacing lead female roles in movie versions of Broadway plays with attractive young movie stars and just dubbing their voices with a professional singer, ala Marni Nixon, who sang for Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady, and Natalie Wood in West Side Story. Just curious. Joemag3 (talk) 06:05, 5 July 2011 (UTC) Joe Mag

Danner sang it DFS (talk) 04:50, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Was "Cool, Considerate, Men" in the very first showings?

I was at the world premier of the movie when it played at NYC's Radio City Music Hall back in 1972. I'm pretty sure that the early projections did include the song. But then again, I'm never sure what I had for breakfast...

Any chance that the editing took place between the premiere and the general distribution? Is there any way to even check?

Thanks

wiki-ny-2007 (talk) 15:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

this quotation, "It was actually Dickinson who freed his slaves in 1776, conditionally at first, and fully by 1787 when the Constitution was ratified." appears to contradict the earlier assertion that he freed his slaves in 1777. well, which is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.34.62.15 (talk) 18:59, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Answer re: Cool, Considerate, Men at Radio City

I ran across the following posting at another site:

1776 starting on TCM right now!!! Posted by justoldbill 2011-07-07 02:26:26.0

The film of 1776 has a very funny history. After the initial engagement at Radio City Music Hall, and before it played most of it's other scheduled engagements, it was trimmed down to a general-release running time, not unlike "A STAR IS BORN". (Thanks again, Mr. Warner.) This is the release that can be seen on the VHS version of the film. Not only was "Cool Considerate Men" deleted, but also chunks of the various debate scenes, including A LOT of the first debate scene. Other losses included the reprise of "The Lees Of Old Virginia" (noted before), slices of "Piddle, Twiddle And Resolve", snippets of "He Plays The Violin", and other minor trims here and there. The first (standard) laser disc edition was this same version. Amazingly, the Columbia soundtrack album also reflected these trims.

When Pioneer released the first "complete" letterboxed version of the LD (in tandem with an extended, letterboxed LOST HORIZON), it generally succeeded in restoring the film to it's original running time, which added about forty minutes to the film. The only snippet not found at the time was one line of dialogue after "Cool Considerate Men", with McNair's rhetorical question, "How'd you like to try and borrow a dollar from one of them?" This snippet was subsequently found and inserted into the DVD version.

When Pioneer compiled the footage for the LD, it was thought that the negative elements for the missing footage were forever lost, and the gaps were filled in with whatever positive elements they could find, including one monochromatic work print of a small scene between Lyman Hall and Cesar Rodney . This accounts for the varying video quality of the disc. The Overture and Intermission Music on this disc seems to have been reconstructed from the film's background score sessions. wiki-ny-2007 (talk) 18:48, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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