Talk:1982–83 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season

July JTWC Tropical Cyclone

How are we going to play the JTWC Tropical Cyclone in July? Should it be mentioned on both the 81-82 and the 82-83 article since per MFR the year didnt transfer over until August or just the 81-82 season.Jason Rees (talk) 13:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Good point, but it was considered Tropical Cyclone 01S, which is the first storm of JTWC's season. Given the MFR didn't even cover it, should it be part of this season, since I assume the JTWC's year started on July 1? Or, should we defer to the TC year as defined by MFR? Or, do we acknowledge that the year has changed, and we should always just put July storms with the subsequent year? I mean, I can't imagine there being too many storms in that month, so it is a bit of an anomaly, but it does bring up food for thought. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

How do we know that MFR didnt cover it as Tropical Depression or Tropical Disturbance L1 though? - their BT practise even today is too only include significant systems that are in the SWIO at TD stage or above for at least 24 hours.Jason Rees (talk) 15:54, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm only assuming, since the other depressions were named, but this one wasn't. Thinking about it further, I agree it should be moved to 81-82. We should defer to the MFR year. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:03, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Depressions got named when they became Moderate Tropical Depressions (aka Moderate Tropical Storms), which doesnt mean that there wasnt any systems like Tropical Depression or Tropical Disturbance L1. However these may be lost to time for now.Jason Rees (talk) 16:09, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

None of them had TS force winds though. MFR even admitted that those storms shouldn't have been named. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

What is that moderate tropical depression you mentioned? That's not backed up by anything. The named TD is backed up by best track, at least. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:18, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

You are getting confused, a tropical depression in this basin pre 1993-94 is <35 kts, a moderate tropical depression is a tropical storm between 35 and 50 kts, while a severe tropical depression is a severe tropical storm between 55 and 65 kts. This is backed up by the MWL article in Spring 1990 and page 105 of Reunions ATCR for 92-93. After you were so insistant that Reunion didnt monitor 01S I posed you a question that said how do you know that 01S was not called TD L1 by Reunion, since the last name used during the last season was Karla and they designated depressions using the first letter of the next name and a number. Which can also be proved by the above ATCR.Jason Rees (talk) 19:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Can you provide a link that solidifies this claim? I feel uneasy listing them as "depressions" when in truth they are what is the equivalent of MTS and STS. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 22:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I feel uneasy about listing them as Tropical Storms and Severe Tropical Storms when as the 1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93 ATCR proves, the scale that was in action at the time used Depression for systems under a tropical cyclone.Jason Rees (talk) 23:00, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, that checks out. But, the question is - should we use what the scale was at the time, or what is currently the scale? After all, we use SSHS for all of the Atlantic, despite it being devised in the 1970s. The same goes for whenever a tropical depression is upgraded to a TS in post-analysis, we report it as a tropical storm. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:05, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Yea, I used the MFR archive, which backs up the storms being called "Moderate Tropical Storms" and so on. This resolves that issue of what to call them. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Yellow Evan (talk · contribs) 03:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Start and end dates for the season if applicable at that time (hey, you ask us that for all our season articles, your turn to add it now, I know there was no season anymore, but until a few months ago, there was). YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • I can't find anything specifically about this season. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
• I'd add that the season is compared to 2010-11 somewhere in the lead. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Ehh, but this article is about 82-83, not 10-11. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
• In the SS, add that El Nio events suppress SWIO activity. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • ENSO has no effect on this basin, see the early 90s for proof.Jason Rees (talk) 01:51, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
• "which formed on Februar 5 northeast of Mauritius." typo. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:16, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Fixed. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
• Add that the Mauritius weather service names systems. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:16, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Added. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
• "near Seychelles persisted " wikilink to Seychelles. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Mocha. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
• "er a Dvorak rating of 2.5.[1] I" which translates to how many mph?
  • Is that relevant? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
• "On December 1, MFR began issuing warnings on the system,[8] after there was a defined circulation.[1]" I'd switch the order of that sentence. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Mocha. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
• Anything from Google Books for Elinah? I found some when I nearly gave it an article. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • I didn't really find anything worth adding. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
• Why is Severe Tropical Depression a header? Your forgot to revert one of JR's edits that supposedly avoided OR. Infobox says Serve Tropical Storm, we do not live in the past, I happen to agree with you and CB above. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Fixed. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
• Link to WMO on ref 2. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Otherwise, fantastic job! We need more good SWIO season articles. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

• Id like to see some consistency between the titles and the infoboxes before this is passed as currently you have the infobox for one saying it is a tropical diosturbance while some are saying severe tropical storms.Jason Rees (talk) 09:01, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Not sure what you're talking about regarding disturbances. As for STS versus MTS, they're now consistent, based on their classification in MFR archive. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 12:42, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
    • You had Clara down as a disturbance this morning because of the winds but i fixed it for you after i posted. Anyway you are not consistent with the MFR archive (if its the one i think your meaning) since the only thing they say with regards to classification is a number 1-6, of which number 3 corresponds to a moderate tropical storm or a severe (forte) tropical storm.Jason Rees (talk) 19:06, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
      • The archive says moderate tropical storm, as does the article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:22, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

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