Talk:1985 MOVE bombing

Latest comment: 5 days ago by HandThatFeeds in topic Title/Template

Context needed

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Context needs to be added. I read the source provided. This wasn't a precise targetting like is being implied. It wasn't an "incident" by dictionary standards. It was found to be unlawful later on this page. Unlawful violence is an attack 2603:8001:A301:1A39:A174:96E6:3B52:29B (talk) 17:22, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Your original edit was not "adding context," it removed citations and introduced spelling errors.
Your second edit was better, but just added more detail than was needed.
Finally, you need to clarify what "context" you're trying to add. Saying it wasn't a precise targetting and at the same time [u]nlawful violence is an attack seems contradictory at first glance.
If you just want to replace "incident" with "attack," I'm indifferent and would probably be fine with that. But you should clarify what changes you're wanting to make here, first. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 18:15, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

First edit was a phone error deleting the citation.

"Saying it wasn't a precise targetting and at the same time [u]nlawful violence is an attack seems contradictory at first glance."

The inprecise targetting was in regards to the "bunker like cubicle". It's impossible to precisely hit a target when manually dropping from a helicopter. That would require aiming technology which didn't occur. Giving the unlawful attack on a residential area validation. The bunker like cubicle, in my opinion, feels like too much detail when it can only be hearsay from the offending party; the Philadelphia Police. G88phila (talk) 01:20, 30 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

It's impossible to precisely hit a target when manually dropping from a helicopter.
This is what we call original research. If you can find a source that says it was impossible to hit the target from a helicopter in this instance, we can reflect that in the article. Otherwise, you're projecting your personal opinion into the Wikipedia article. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 12:48, 30 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
G88phila, I made a couple of changes that I hope reasonably address your concerns while sticking to facts from the sources. Freoh (talk) 03:19, 31 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Hello, seeing as this topic was already discussed previously, I wanted to ask before making the edit, would it make more sense to refer to this as an incident or another term? When considering the article as a whole, it covers the actions taken by both sides in the lead up to the bombing just as much as the bombing itself. I think the term "attack" wouldn't make sense either, since it implies it was more one sided(Not to say it wasn't). Considering the MOVE members were also actively engaged in a gunfight with the police, would it be more appropriate to use civil conflict infobox? ExiaMesa (talk) 03:13, 15 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

See WP:COMMONNAME. It's referred to as the "MOVE bombing" in reliable sources, so we go by what it's best known as. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 13:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply