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Skip
editFrom the article: "One storm, Typhoon Skip, passed into this basin from the west, keeping its west Pacific name."
No it didn't. It crossed from the central Pacific into the West Pacific [1]. It just wasn't named until it got into the west Pacific. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 02:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Any Pictures for this season's hurricanes?
editCan anyone find pictures of storms from this year? I mean, Hurricane Rick was the strongest, and yet it doesn't have a pic. Only like 3 tops have pics on this entire page. Some pics would be great for this season article. Come on, I mean, the NHC and NOAA had to have weather satellites monitor more than just three systems. If anyone finds pictures of some of these storms, it probably should be somewhere near peak intensity, there have gotta be more than just 3 pics for hurricanes this entire season. Hurricanekiller1994 (talk) 15:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- All the TS's have pictures.YE Pacific Hurricane 18:59, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Last depression
editFor the last depression of this season, it says TD 25-E, but, counting from 22-E before it, shouldn't it be 26-E? Hurricanekiller1994 (talk) 15:02, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Info
editIs there any NHC archive on storms from this year? If anyone finds one, try posting a link to it. Hurricanekiller1994 (talk) 22:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- The NHC did not track the season. YE Pacific Hurricane 22:27, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Linda image
editIs that a image of Linda? HurricaneSpin Talk My contributions 04:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
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Reviewer: 12george1 (talk · contribs) 15:19, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "13 reached hurricane intensity, and 8 became major hurricanes by reaching Category 3" ----> "13 reached hurricane intensity, and 8 became major hurricanes by attaining Category 3"
- "Despite the activity, only one system to make landfall in 1985." ----> "Despite the activity, only one system made landfall in 1985." Also, wikilink "landfall".
- "Hurricane Waldo caused moderate damage in Northwestern Mexico and one death in Kansas. Surf from Hurricanes Pauline and Rick caused" - Since Waldo and Rick have an article, wikilink them here.
- "while Hurricane Ignacio threatened Hawaii" - Wikilink Ignacio here, too.
- "This year, 25 tropical cyclones formed in the eastern north Pacific (140°W to North America)." - But the infobox says there were 28.
- I said 140 not 180. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:10, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Of those systems, three never strengthened beyond the depression stage" - Actually there were four, 8-E, 1-C, 22-E, and 25-E.
- This is EPHC AOR mentioned here, not CPHC OR, so 1-C does not count. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:10, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "With a total 26 tropical cyclones and 24 named storms," - Remember, the infobox say that there were 28 tropical cyclones.
- EPHC AOR. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:10, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Of the named systems, 10 peaked as tropical storms," - Actually, if you count all of them including Skip and Vivian, there were 11.
- Skip was a hurricane when it crossed back into the EPAC IIRC. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:10, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "with 4 storms forming in June, including one major hurricane." - I see 5: Andres, Blanca, Carlos, Dolores, and Enrique.
- "By early September, a total of 17 named storms had developed, 6 of which became hurricanes." - There were 7 hurricanes by then actually.
- You sure? Blanca, Dolores, Ignacio, Jimena, Marty, Olaf. Pauline and Skip were not canes by then. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:10, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Andres headed west, and two days after formation, it reached its maximum intensity of 70 mph (110 km/h) when it was south of the Baja California Peninsula." ----> "Andres headed west and two days after formation, the storm reached its maximum intensity of 70 mph (110 km/h), while located south of the Baja California Peninsula."
- Go for more sentence variation in Andres section. For example, try alternating "it" with "Andres" or "the storm".
- "While the Monthly Weather Review reported that Tropical Storm Andres operationally started out as a tropical depression.[13] the HURDAT database does not give Andres an initial depression stage." - I would insert into the other paragraph right after that sentence that indicates Andres strengthened into a tropical storm.
- Why is Blanca one of the shortest sections on the article? You could easily lengthen it. For example: " It became a tropical storm shortly later, and became a hurricane by June 8,[2] Blanca fluctuated in intensity for several days, but Blanca did not intensify into a major hurricane, Category 3 or higher, until June 13." ----> "Shortly thereafter, it strengthened and was upgraded to Tropical Storm Blanca. By June 8, Blanca intensified into a hurricane. During the next several days, Blanca fluctuated in intensity, before strengthened into a major hurricane – Category 3 or higher – on June 13."
- Blame the MWR. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:10, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "It held on to hurricane strength until June 14. Steadily weakening, Blanca dissipated June 16." - For this portion, you can lengthen it by changing it to "It held on to hurricane strengthen until June 14, when it fell to tropical storm intensity. Steadily weakening, Blanca deteriorated into a tropical depression, before dissipating on June 16."
- Done save the addition of an extra word. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "edge of the Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ)" - Wikilink "Intertropical Convergence Zone"
- "Moving west over 81 °F (27 °C) water," ----> "Moving west over sea surface temperatures (SST's) in excess of 81 °F (27 °C),". Also, please wikilink "sea surface temperatures"
- I don't use the abbreviation in the rest of the article, correct? so IMO there is no need to add the SST part. I added the link though. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Additionally, colder sea surface temperatures over the west coast" ----> "Additionally, colder SST's over the west coast"
- See above. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "as a tropical depression 270 mi (430 km) south of Acapulco on July 7." - as tropical depression, while located 270 mi (430 km) south of Acapulco on July 7". Also, the non-breaking space is messed up. You need to add a semi-colon (;) between the p and the 7.
- "helping re-fill dry reservoirs and put out large fires." ----> "which re-filled dry reservoirs and put out large fires."
- That changes the meaning, so no. Sorry. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "the storm reached it maximum" ----> "the storm reached its maximum"
- "southern Mexico on July 18 and 19." - Non-breaking space errors here too.
- "peak wind speed of 130 mph (215 km/h) while location roughly 600 mi (970 km)" ----> "peak wind speed of 130 mph (215 km/h) while located roughly 600 mi (970 km)"
- Good call, done. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Ignacio reached winds of 70 mph (140 km/h) roughly 24 hours after formation and subsequently entered the CPHC's warning zone." - I know you say 24 hours after formation, but you should mention what day Ignacio entered the CPHC's warning zone, since there is no date mentioned in the previous sentence.
- Welcome to storm articles and there is a date mentioned in the previous sentence. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Crossing marginally warm sea surface temperatures, Kevin maintained" ----> "Crossing marginally warm SST's, Kevin maintained"
- See several comments above. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Linda peaked as a moderate tropical storm at 1200 UTC July 31." ----> "Linda peaked as a moderate tropical storm at 1200 UTC on July 31."
- "Within six hours, the storm had regained tropical storm status." ----> "On [insert data], Linda regained tropical storm status."
- "After moving westward over sea surface temperatures of 84 °F (29 °C)" ----> "After moving westward over SST's of 84 °F (29 °C)"
- Again, see above. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "tropical storm as it began tracking across colder sea surface temperatures" ----> "tropical storm as it began tracking across colder SST's"
- See comment further up. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "due to a decrease in sea surface temperatures" - "due to a decrease in SST's"
- Same here. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- I think you should shorten both Pauline and Sandra's section, as well as narrow them down to two paragraphs.
- I did not combined the paragraphs, but I did shorten them slighty (they had a lot of info, but not enough for an article). YE Pacific Hurricane 17:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Two-C crossed the International dateline the next day and into" ----> "The depression crossed the International Date Line the next and became a western pacific typhoon."
- "Shortly thereafter, Skip was declared extratropical despite still producing hurricane-force winds" - "despite still producing hurricane-force winds" isn't really necessary, IMO.
- Disagreed, since when do EPAc storm become ET as canes? YE Pacific Hurricane 17:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Moving rapidly west over 86 °F (30 °C), a circulation became" - Missing something?
- Read the next word. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "After crossing an area of sea surface temperatures in excess of 82 °F (28 °C)" ----> "After crossing an area of SST's in excess of 82 °F (28 °C)"
- Again, see above. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "With help from a cold front, Waldo contributed" ----> In combination with a cold front, Waldo contributed"
- "The origins of Nele were from a tropical disturbance to the south-southeast of Hawaii on October 20. The system passed well south of the state, developing into Tropical Depression Three-C on October 23." ----> "A tropical disturbance developed into Tropical Depression Three-C while located south-southeast of Hawaii on October 23."
- "Continuing to intensify, the storm tracked northwestward, following a similar path to Hurricane Iwa in 1982 and Hurricane Nina in 1957, both late season storms that threatened the island." - The part after the second comma is not really necessary, especially since you mention Iwa again in the second paragraph.
- Removed. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "The only tropical depression to develop in the CPHC's area of responsibility from a disturbance embedded in the trade wind flow south of the Hawaiian Islands that was about 35 mi (56 km) south of the Hawaiian Islands." ----> "The only tropical depression in the CPHC's area of responsibility developed from a disturbance embedded in the trade wind flow south of the Hawaiian Islands that was about 35 mi (56 km) south of the Hawaiian Islands."
- "Despite sea surface temperatures in excess of 82 °F (28 °C), the depression did not strengthen," ----> "Despite SST's in excess of 82 °F (28 °C), the depression did not strengthen,"
- No, see start. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- "The depression drifted slowly southward at 3 mph (4.8 km/h)" - Remove the convert template and round that 4.8 km/h to 5 km/h.
- On Reference #1, there should be a comma between "Dorst" and "Neal"
- On Reference #2, the names aren't separate correctly with semicolons (;) and "Gregory R. Hammer" should be "Hammer, Gregory R."
- On References #7, #15, and #19, the titles shouldn't be written in all-caps; you should probably write each word starting with a capital letter though, Just Like This.
- Switch David M. Roth in References #26 and #37 to Roth, David M.
- Reference #39 is a deadlink
- In Reference #40, switch Gary Padgett to Padgett, Gary.
- Damn, that was quick, considering how many comments I left. Anyway, I will now pass this article and list it as a Good Article.--12george1 (talk) 03:30, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
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Proposed merge of Hurricane Ignacio (1985) into 1985 Pacific hurricane season
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Fails WP:NWX since the impact was only minimal. The content here could be easily summarized in the season article. Noah, AATalk 14:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support merge: This system had an unremarkable lifespan and had minimal impact anywhere. Further, the article is small, and so any information not in the season article already can be easily be transferred to it. Drdpw (talk) 21:33, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose because the season section is well-flexed out, I don't see the point. YE Pacific Hurricane 16:26, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Yellow Evan: there is only 7,008 words, which is well within the realms of a good article size. I think we should be more restrictive with the mergers when the season article is at 8,000 words. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support - I don't think there's enough unique content in the Ignacio article, compared to what's already in the season section. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Ignacio wasn't notable enough to warrant a separate article, and there's not much information and content in the article. I agree that it could be easily summarized in the season article. ~ Sandy14156 (Talk ✉️) 20:26, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Subject seems independently notable and some content would inevitably be cut in a merge. What's the harm in leaving it? —Compassionate727 (T·C) 01:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Mergers aren't debated on the "harm" of whether they're kept or not. If the content is redundant between two articles, then there isn't a need for the one article. There wouldn't be any new content in Ignacio's article if it was merged. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:NWXTC, the bulk of the article is concerned with meteorological history and preparations. The only impact this brought to the Hawaiian Islands was high waves and light rain. This is not not independently notable. TarnishedPathtalk 11:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)