Talk:1989 Spanish general election

Use of clear tags in the article

I now have a whole screen's worth of whitespace after "Congress of Deputies" heading. How on earth can such awful formatting possibly be justified? Number 57 16:29, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

What? The clear tag is there because otherwise, the table is shown clunged with the Congress image, showing a lot of whitespace to the left side of the article. There is no whitespace after the "Congress of Deputies" heading. Impru20 (talk) 16:37, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

I assume you're not using Google Chrome then? Number 57 16:42, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

In fact, I'm using Google Chrome. Also, the clear tag is in all Spanish election articles from 1989 to 2011, and in the later elections (2004 to 2011) has been there for months. No user has removed it despite the articles being modified sometimes either by registered or by IP users, so I'm not sure, but from this I figure you may be the only one having issues with it. Impru20 (talk) 16:48, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

I've looked at it on two computers with different screen widths, both using Chrome, and both had the same problem, so it's nothing to do with my computer (and I've found numerous articles with this kind of problem over the years that no-one else has bothered to fix, so I don't think that's anything to consider). I've also just checked this article out on IE10, and it also has the whitespace. The same problems occurs on the 1993, 1996, 2000 and 2004 articles. Number 57 16:55, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

And also, the obvious solution is to put the Congress image below the table. Number 57 16:59, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Removed the PoliticsES template. Looks better, but there is still some whitespace as a result of width conflict between the Election infobox and the results table (this issue will remain even if you put the Congress image below the table). So, the most obvious solution would be to actually write down in the article, so the addition of new text makes up for the size of the infobox. Impru20 (talk) 17:08, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Actually, if you simply reverse the table and the image, there is no whitespace at all. I've just saved the article like that. You'll need to expand the text a lot, because really wide screens will reduce the length of it. Number 57 17:17, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, just check the 2011 and 2015 election articles and you will see how text can be expanded. The only thing to do would be to find the sources and the information to write down a text, but I know where to find that. I'm finishing some minor fixings on all election articles and I'm on it. Impru20 (talk) 18:05, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I've looked at it with another computer, and you are right, there is some weird whitespace at it in articles for the 1989, 1993, 1996, 2000 and 2004. However, the clear tag is in all of them, including the later 2008 and 2011 elections, and this issue is not visible there. I checked it again and realized that it is not the clear tag the one causing it, but the PoliticsES template, which is causing it because of those article not having enough text and being somewhat 'empty'. I'm removing this template from those articles, and check how it looks. Impru20 (talk) 17:02, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

The whitespace is less (about half a page), but it's still there. This time it's between the Congress image and the table, as the clear tag is forcing the table to start at the bottom of the infobox. The reason it didn't happen in the 2008 and 2011 articles is that the articles are long enough that the text finished below the end of the infobox, so there was nothing to "force" the table further down. Number 57 17:05, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

The tag is actually serving two purposes as it is now: the first is it to solve an issue with the table messing with the image. The second it is to show the table without it looking really awkwards as a result of it conflicting with the infobox. As I said, the solution would be to add some background for the election, the electoral campaign, etc. I can do it as I've been doing for the 2011 and 2015 election articles, but it would take time. Impru20 (talk) 17:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)