Talk:2009 Indonesian Air Force L-100 crash

Proposed for Deletion

This article has been proposed for deletion. I only added this article because I believe that this crash is notable because of the number of deaths involved, but I could be wrong. I'll go start checking around to see if I can find any guidelines for notability of plane crashes anywhere. Caleb Jon^talk 04:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I just found this Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Notability#Accidents. Apparently crashes of military aircraft don't qualify as notable even if there are deaths involved (which I had previously thought). But it also says that if a military crash causes civilian deaths and occurs in a civilian area it can count as notable, so I think this crash still qualifies. Caleb Jon^talk 04:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Yep, I agree with you. Civilian deaths in a civilian area, so I think it is Hamish MacKellar | Only The Dead Have Seen The End Of War 09:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that due to the fact that there were numerous deaths, as well as worldwide media coverage, the article should remain in-tact. People obviously care that the plane crashed. Also, the infobox used on the page was created specifically for aviation accidents. I say it should stay. Mnmazur (talk) 22:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Huh?

one sentence says that there were 98 passengers another says 112.

Username 2 (talk) 15:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

It also says that there were 109 passengers aboard, 97 deaths and 70 others taken to a local hospital? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.247.32.158 (talk) 15:26, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

this is a pretty reliable source: http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20090520-0

Username 2 (talk) 15:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Sounds contradictory: "... at least 98 deaths, including 2 on the ground[2] at least five of which occurred on the ground ..." If there were 2 deaths on the ground, then how could at least five of those two have occurred on the ground? Art LaPella (talk) 19:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

The 2/5 problem has been resolved by rewording. Art LaPella (talk) 21:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

But where are the 70 other people coming from? From only 4 houses ? Can't believe it! Sounds highly suspicious to me... --Azurfrog (talk) 16:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

My guess would be that they took almost everybody they found to a local hospital no matter if they were injured or not. That could explain all the extra people going to a hospital. Caleb Jon^talk 05:51, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I heard that Papuan separatists shot down a plane just like this one

http://www.postcourier.com.pg/20090414/news01.htm

Is this relevant? When I opened the Wikinews article I assumed it was a belated report of this incident. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.131.220 (talk • contribs) 05:36, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

The incident in the link is over a month old. It clearly is a separate incident that is in no way connected to this one. – Zntrip 05:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Image

The image file:2009 Indonesia C-130H Hercules crash.jpg is listed under a fair-use policy. However, this type of use is only allowed for critical analysis of the network or program from which the screenshot is rendered. This is not the case here. --SVTCobra (talk) 01:03, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

The image does qualify as fair use when illustrating the topic covered. It has been used by many western news networks, who also claim fair-use under American law. Mnmazur (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC).