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Semi-protected edit request on 17 July 2014

All star team should be removed. This is not selected by FIFA technical committee. It is selected by Castrol experts and this should be in castrol pages not in here. Naseef 07 (talk) 16:43, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. It's officially endorsed by FIFA - the source is from their website, so why shouldn't it be included? - 97rob (talk) 16:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

There is also this Dream Team that appears to be almost completely different from the Castrol one. I'm pretty sure the FIFA Technical Study Group will be releasing their own tournament dream team in due course (one that will have more than 11 players), so I reckon we should wait for that one. – PeeJay 18:09, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

That one is based on users voting though, so is probably less official. We can either stick with the Castrol one until FIFA announce a better one, or we could just remove the section until we get something from FIFA themselves, rather than a sponser? - 97rob (talk) 21:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

No mention of FIFA forcing beer sales in Brazil

Why is there no mention of FIFA strong-arming Brazil and taking away its right to self-determination wrt the sale of alcohol in stadia?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-16624823http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-16624823 — Waidawut (talk) 23:27, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

It's mentioned on the controversies page. No, they did not have any rights taken away as no one forced Brazil to host World Cup. Brazil wanted to host so they have to play by FIFA's rules. Correctron (talk) 00:12, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2014

Please change this "4 assists Germany Toni Kroos 3 assists Colombia Juan Cuadrado" to "4 assists Germany Toni Kroos Colombia Juan Cuadrado"

because the correct information is that Juan Cuadrado also had 4 assists. Source: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/players/goal-scored.html

2.248.53.58 (talk) 00:38, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Done It was stored on a template that you could edit. —cyberpower ^Chat_Online 10:03, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

World Cup Winners 2

At this point, the winner is Costa Rica, the runner up Belgium. The real winners are moved to 3rd and 4th, respectively. Certainly not a mistake. I plan to change it back and monitor this article.

Common with vandalism, unfortunately. It usually gets corrected in time. QED237 (talk) 12:44, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

assists

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/players/goal-scored.html

the fifa website has different assist statistics to the ones we are using now — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0danmaster0 (talk • contribs)

This has been discussed above. The FIFA source only counts assists from players who were goalscorers, so a UEFA source is being used, as they had a list of all players with assists. It's annoying that they're different, but the consistency of using one source is probably best. - 97rob (talk) 17:32, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

This does not explain why the FIFA list includes Juan Cuadrado as joint leader, and UEFA only has Toni Kroos. FIFA are the official organising body for the World Cup, so their stats should surely take precedence. Greenman (talk) 22:06, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Doesnt Thomas muller have 3 assists ? Gotze against Ghana - Schurlle against algeria - Klose against Brazil

This is why I dont like assist (and there is consensus not to include on some pages. Everyone has different definition of what an assist is. QED237 (talk) 12:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

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Error in Group B

I can't find where the tables are referencing from, but somehow Australia is listed as 9 points and winning the group and the Netherlands is listed as 0 points despite the correct results being listed everywhere else. Can anyone find where this issue is being created?

Coramoor18 (talk) 03:22, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't see the issue that you're referring to. In the tables section Netherlands have 9 points and Australia 0. Can you clarify? Valenciano (talk) 10:09, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

The standings table is placed in a template and that template was vandalised but has been restored by an other user so now it is good. QED237 (talk) 11:45, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

World Cup Winner?

Current World Cup Winner 2014 stated as Egypt. I dare say that is either a mistake or a placeholder, surely?

Just a mistake probably. QED237 (talk) 12:42, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

It was intentional from an Egyptian editor. The editor made several other edits just as the tournament was ending. The phrase was in the article for less time than it took the anon to write this comment. That's why I didn't respond earlier. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:00, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Here are too more errors:Australia is now Saudi Arabia.Colombia, Greece, Japan and Ivory Coast are now Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, Iraq.Uruguay, Costa Rica, Italy and England are Tunisia, Lebanon, Morocco and Sudan.Switzerland, France, Ecuador and Honduras are now Jordan, United Arab, Kuwait, Turkey.Nigeria is now Egypt.Ghana is now South Africa and South Koreea is now Pakistan. At the knockout stage, Colombia become Qatar, Uruguay become Morocco, Germany become Egypt and the score of the final match is 10-0, and Egypt became the winner, instead of the score of 1-0, and Germany the winner. I want that Wikipedia will see that and repair the page, and that users will be blocked FOREVER. Thanks for understand!!!!!!!!!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.76.186.28 (talk • contribs)

Just vandalism that has now been removed. QED237 (talk) 12:14, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Information to be included

In accordance with Wikipedias founder claiming media reports are truth I suggest we need to modify this article to account for the North Korean version of the "truth" found in this national news which stated they made the finals beating Japan 7 - 0 the USA 4 - 0 and China 2 - 0. Remember news reports are equal to truth now so we cannot be responsible in determining the truth therefore in the interest of truth we must include the North Korean media reports as truth. Dwavenhobble (talk) 19:28, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2015

"three tournaments in a row" = "three consecutive tournaments" 66.74.176.59 (talk) 04:17, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Why? Stickee (talk) 05:21, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Assists to be corrected

Thomas Müller had 3 assists (see directly below at the awards section), but is wrongly in the 2 assists section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.100.56.243 (talk) 10:04, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

It also has to be done on the statistcs page to this World Cup. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.100.56.243 (talk) 10:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Editing required for Statistics (Assists) and Awards (Silver Boot)

Upon speculation, I found that Thomas Müller's total number of assists under Statistics is 2, and under the Silver Boot information (under Awards), it is 3. However, neither of these values are correct; Müller, in fact, assisted in 4 goals. I was going to fix this minor error but was not permitted to do so. This should be fixed to prevent any confusion. Thank you.

Soccerbot01 (talk) 00:30, 9 July 2015 (UTC)Soccerbot01

Merger Discussion

Request received to merge List of 2014 FIFA World Cup matches into FIFA World Cup; date=November 26, 2015; discuss here. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 05:06, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

• Comment: Isn't there a set precedent/layout for these types of articles from prior years? GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"}
• Delete: It's a redundant list, as all the matches are listed already in the main article. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 09:52, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

140k!

This article is 140k in size, and long as well. This article should be split apart. There's no reason for all this to reside on a single page.

Why are the group stage individual results duplicated here?

Why are the are the knockout stage detailed results duplicated here?

Why not move all the match/stage summaries off onto a separate subarticle, and only list the Final and final rankings here instead?

-- 65.94.171.217 (talk) 23:54, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

I strongly oppose this suggestion!! A tournament like World Cup needs detailed discussion so size of the article shouldn't lead to truncated information!! It has already been shortened earlier and the exact format has been followed per the pages of earlier World Cup editions!!! We can't keep on changing all the pages of past World Cups!!! I think it's absolutely fine as it is now!!! Cricket246 (talk) 16:16, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Why do we have match summaries here? We only need the round results tables and knockout round tree. We don't need game breakdowns, since that replicates information found in the sub-articles that already exist. We should keep in mind readability for people who need to use screenreaders; and accessibility for people on mobile devices, neither of whch is helped by large pages or long pages. -- 65.94.171.217 (talk) 05:29, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I myself am active in Wikipedia via a mobile phone with slow net connections and I never had any problems with this format... So I still oppose your discussed move because the article's alright as it is now!!! Cricket246 (talk) 12:26, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

WP:SIZE/WP:TOOBIG the recommendation is to split it up -- 65.94.171.217 (talk) 06:03, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Actually WP:SIZE/WP:TOOBIG talk about readable prose, not wikitext. Currently the readable prose (as measured by User:Dr pda/prosesize) is 23kb, which is well within limit. Rami R 14:44, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

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Source for final rankings 1-32

I removed the redirected link http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/awards/final-tournament-standings/index.html in the "Tournament team rankings" section. diff

It is now redirected because FIFA updates the generic URLs for the current tournament, putting the previous tournaments in an archive directory, in this case Brazil 2014. I'm sure this affects hundreds, maybe thousands, of links in World Cup articles. So if anybody reading this wants a project (headache), solving this issue would be very helpful.

For this article and the 2014 final world standings, I cannot find any source. Navigating the FIFA Brazil 2014 pages has this as the link to the final tournament standings, and it's blank. I searched FIFA and Google and found nothing.

I'm not doubting the rankings are correct, but it would be nice to actually have a source for the ranking. Can anybody do better than me? - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 03:22, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind. I'm new at World Cup articles. I found the ranking in the Technical report. I'll cite it now. The broken links issue is still important, however. - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 03:30, 15 October 2017 (UTC)