Talk:2020 Alabama Democratic presidential primary

Discussion at Talk:2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries#Two part RfC about inclusion criteria for listing candidates in infoboxes

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries#Two part RfC about inclusion criteria for listing candidates in infoboxes. - MrX 🖋 01:53, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Castro missing from results and candidates on ballot list.

He is not found in either list although his votes appeared to be counted in the total at the bottom. I am no savi enough in Wikipedia editing to actually be able to do it though. 209.54.86.136 (talk) 05:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done --Spiffy sperry (talk) 15:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 3 June 2020

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved as proposed. Consensus is clear, and overwhelming. BD2412 T 14:46, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

• 2020 Alabama Democratic primary → 2020 Alabama Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Alaska Democratic primary → 2020 Alaska Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Arizona Democratic primary → 2020 Arizona Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Arkansas Democratic primary → 2020 Arkansas Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 California Democratic primary → 2020 California Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Colorado Democratic primary → 2020 Colorado Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Connecticut Democratic primary → 2020 Connecticut Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Delaware Democratic primary → 2020 Delaware Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Democrats Abroad primary → 2020 Democrats Abroad presidential primary
• 2020 District of Columbia Democratic primary → 2020 District of Columbia Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Florida Democratic primary → 2020 Florida Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Georgia Democratic primary → 2020 Georgia Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Hawaii Democratic primary → 2020 Hawaii Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Idaho Democratic primary → 2020 Idaho Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Illinois Democratic primary → 2020 Illinois Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Indiana Democratic primary → 2020 Indiana Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Iowa Democratic caucuses → 2020 Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses
• 2020 Kansas Democratic primary → 2020 Kansas Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Kentucky Democratic primary → 2020 Kentucky Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Louisiana Democratic primary → 2020 Louisiana Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Maine Democratic primary → 2020 Maine Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Maryland Democratic primary → 2020 Maryland Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Massachusetts Democratic primary → 2020 Massachusetts Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Michigan Democratic primary → 2020 Michigan Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Minnesota Democratic primary → 2020 Minnesota Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Mississippi Democratic primary → 2020 Mississippi Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Missouri Democratic primary → 2020 Missouri Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Montana Democratic primary → 2020 Montana Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Nebraska Democratic primary → 2020 Nebraska Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Nevada Democratic caucuses → 2020 Nevada Democratic presidential caucuses
• 2020 New Hampshire Democratic primary → 2020 New Hampshire Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 New Jersey Democratic primary → 2020 New Jersey Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 New Mexico Democratic primary → 2020 New Mexico Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 New York Democratic primary → 2020 New York Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 North Carolina Democratic primary → 2020 North Carolina Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 North Dakota Democratic caucuses → 2020 North Dakota Democratic presidential caucuses
• 2020 Ohio Democratic primary → 2020 Ohio Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Oklahoma Democratic primary → 2020 Oklahoma Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Oregon Democratic primary → 2020 Oregon Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Pennsylvania Democratic primary → 2020 Pennsylvania Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Puerto Rico Democratic primary → 2020 Puerto Rico Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Rhode Island Democratic primary → 2020 Rhode Island Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 South Carolina Democratic primary → 2020 South Carolina Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 South Dakota Democratic primary → 2020 South Dakota Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Tennessee Democratic primary → 2020 Tennessee Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Texas Democratic primary → 2020 Texas Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Utah Democratic primary → 2020 Utah Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Vermont Democratic primary → 2020 Vermont Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Virginia Democratic primary → 2020 Virginia Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Washington Democratic primary → 2020 Washington Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 West Virginia Democratic primary → 2020 West Virginia Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Wisconsin Democratic primary → 2020 Wisconsin Democratic presidential primary
• 2020 Wyoming Democratic caucuses → 2020 Wyoming Democratic presidential caucuses
• 2020 Alabama Republican primary → 2020 Alabama Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Arkansas Republican primary → 2020 Arkansas Republican presidential primary
• 2020 California Republican primary → 2020 California Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Colorado Republican primary → 2020 Colorado Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Florida Republican primary → 2020 Florida Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Georgia Republican primary → 2020 Georgia Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Idaho Republican primary → 2020 Idaho Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Illinois Republican primary → 2020 Illinois Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Iowa Republican caucuses → 2020 Iowa Republican presidential caucuses
• 2020 Maine Republican primary → 2020 Maine Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Massachusetts Republican primary → 2020 Massachusetts Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Michigan Republican primary → 2020 Michigan Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Minnesota Republican primary → 2020 Minnesota Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Mississippi Republican primary → 2020 Mississippi Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Missouri Republican primary → 2020 Missouri Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Nebraska Republican primary → 2020 Nebraska Republican presidential primary
• 2020 New Hampshire Republican primary → 2020 New Hampshire Republican presidential primary
• 2020 New Mexico Republican primary → 2020 New Mexico Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Ohio Republican primary → 2020 Ohio Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Oklahoma Republican primary → 2020 Oklahoma Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Oregon Republican primary → 2020 Oregon Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Tennessee Republican primary → 2020 Tennessee Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Texas Republican primary → 2020 Texas Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Utah Republican primary → 2020 Utah Republican presidential primary
• 2020 North Carolina Republican primary → 2020 North Carolina Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Vermont Republican primary → 2020 Vermont Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Washington Republican primary → 2020 Washington Republican presidential primary
• 2020 Wisconsin Republican primary → 2020 Wisconsin Republican presidential primary
• 2020 American Samoa caucuses → 2020 American Samoa presidential caucuses
• 2020 Northern Mariana Islands caucuses → 2020 Northern Mariana Islands presidential caucuses
• 2020 U.S. Virgin Islands caucuses → 2020 U.S. Virgin Islands presidential caucuses
• 2020 primaries in Puerto Rico → 2020 Puerto Rico presidential primaries

– As mentioned on Talk:2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries#Rename the primaries, the various U.S. states and territories also conduct primary elections for their respective state and local offices (on different days for some states and territories). Adding "presidential" to these article titles would provide more clarification and precision. Previous WP:BOLD attempts to do this on some of these individual articles have been reverted, thus opening this multi-page RM for the entire set of pages (only doing the 2020 articles for now to gain consensus. If there is consensus, will do the previous 2016 and earlier pages.) Zzyzx11 (talk) 22:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

TBH - You should've concentrated on changing titles of the non-presidential primaries (i.e adding senatorial or representative, etc) & left the prez primaries & caucuses in their current titles. By adding 'presidential', we'll have cumbersome titles for the articles, intros & infobox headings. GoodDay (talk) 13:11, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support In many cases, the presidential primary and downballot primaries are on the same day. But, take Iowa for instance. Their caucuses are "first in the nation", but they had their downballot primaries yesterday, making this a good qualifier to add. We'd have to go back for all the past presidential elections too. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:20, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support. In Maine, the primaries for every office except president is on a different date. 331dot (talk) 00:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support Agree with Muboshgu and would also like to note that party primaries for other offices can warrant their own articles in the future, which makes adding qualifiers to the article titles all the more necessary. --MisterElection2001 (talk) 00:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support – I was the reverter mentioned by Zzyzx11, but I actually support the change for clarity. It just needs to happen to the whole series at once (which requires a consensus) to avoid technical issues caused by links being inconsistent. I’m glad to see a central discussion was started for this instead of a debate on each individual page. I think if we’re going to refer to main pages like 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries as “presidential,” then the other pages in the series should match that. Shouldn’t we be having this discussion on the main article’s talk page, though? — Tartan357  ^(Talk) 02:06, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support Agree, as someone understanding the US presidential election system while an election is underway, this was confusing Kedarmpster (talk) 03:19, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support Why was this proposed only now, when several of these events have already taken place? The naming convention has been in place for years now, but why was that not followed for this set of articles from the outset? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 10:53, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:19, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support I came here looking for information on the Senate primary, and was very confused by the fact that it is not mentioned here Waidawut (talk) 17:45, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support Makes perfect sense to me! --Woko Sapien (talk) 19:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support 100% per nom. Consistency with "2020 Democratic presidential primaries" (etc.), clarity, etc. A few other similarly-named articles would need to be moved as well if this move is accepted. Paintspot Infez (talk) 21:37, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support and similar moves should be initiated for previous years as well.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 18:54, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support Makes sense to me. Smith0124 (talk) 21:29, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - Best to keep it simple, via WP:COMMONNAME, IMHO. PS - Would be better to concentrate on adjusting the article titles of non-presidential primaries & caucuses. GoodDay (talk) 12:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

What would be a good name for the other primary elections that take place? Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 16:21, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Go with (examples) Alabama Democratic senatorial primary or North Carolina Democratic gubernatorial primary. GoodDay (talk) 02:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support - the Presidential primaries are not the only primaries taking place; better to specify. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 13:52, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support The articles exclusively cover the presidential primaries and completely ignore that other races were in the state party primaries. The more specific title is also more accurate to the content of the page. Cookieo131 (talk) 15:50, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - How many of the non-presidential primaries have separate articles? I imagine the number is low, as a more appropriate location for this information seems to be in a section of the article on that particular local or state election (2020 United States Senate election in Illinois, for example). For those who come here looking for information on non-presidential primaries, a See Also link should suffice. And if the local or state election is not notable enough to have a separate article, then the related primary shouldn't either. --Spiffy sperry (talk) 16:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Coming from Minnesota, this is our first year with a presidential primary in a long while. I was briefly confused by the article being called the 2020 Democratic primary. Let's call these elections what they are. Adding one word in service of accuracy and avoiding confusion is worth it. TheSavageNorwegian 21:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Any articles that deal only with presidential primaries should be labeled as such. At this point state and local races are much more interesting than presidential primaries. Take a look for example at the Georgia primaries on June 8.Michael E Nolan (talk) 15:59, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support - It shouldn't be called that, as it is better to specify, for better understanding dn in real life, it isn't called that. Skappy (talk) 18:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support - I'd be willing to rename them all as well. Starzoner (talk) 22:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per Spiffy sperry and GoodDay. Also concerning caucus states, are there actually caucuses to select Congressional and Senate nominees? In caucus territories do they use caucuses to determine their nominees for delegate/resident commissioner? If they use primaries for that, is there really any reason to make clear we are talking about "presidential" caucuses?--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 22:31, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support and move all previous years articles as well for consistency 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 00:08, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

References

Hatnotes “for primaries in other races”

@BD2412: Now that the pages have been moved to include “presidential” in their titles, these hatnotes seem unnecessary for disambiguation. These notes are lengthy on some pages, with multiple other primary pages linked to. It also seems like they’d be hard to keep track of (some are for Senate races, others gubernatorial, others local, etc.) and it seems like the move addressed this problem. Was there some consensus on keeping/adding them related the move discussion? — Tartan357  ^(Talk) 04:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Not that I recall. I would generally consider it to be up to the proponents of the page move to clean up as necessary afterwards. BD2412 T 04:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

@BD2412: Thanks. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything too obvious. I was one of the proponents, so I'll consider boldly removing these hatnotes. — Tartan357  ^(Talk) 04:54, 18 June 2020 (UTC)