Talk:2020 Croatian parliamentary election
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3 or 6 parties in the infobox
editThe question is should we have 3 parties in the infobox or 6. The order should be based on the current seats number of by performance in the last elections. --Tuvixer (talk) 11:16, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- I support the first option since it seems likely that Škoro will lead a broader alliance, which could possibly even have a many as 15 or so incumbents among outgoing MPS (10 from Most, 1 from Bloc for Croatia, 1 from Independents for Croatia, 1 from HRAST, maybe Željko Glasnović and HDSSB as well). This would make it far bigger than any other potential alliance or individual party (besides the HDZ and the SDP), such as the Amsterdam Coalition (7 seats - 4 from Glas, 3 from IDS and 1 from the Democrats). If the Amsterdam Coalition is realized for this election maybe the infobox can be expanded to four parties. 93.138.127.97 11:36, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- I would suggest the best way of complying with WP:NPOV would be to include all parties that currently have seats, like 2020 Serbian parliamentary election or Next United Kingdom general election. The infobox would also be far more compact. Number 57 13:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- I think the new infobox looks good. But one question – why have the HDS and HSLS been included with the HDZ (and HSS, HSU and SNAGA been included with the SDP). Are they contesting the upcoming election in a formal alliance (as that is usually the only reason they're grouped)? Cheers, Number 57 12:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- SDP has a formal alliance with HSS, HSU and SNAGA. Also, Bloc for Croatia has an alliance with Škoro's Homeland Movement and the coalition's only current MP (Hasanbegović) is from the Bloc, but Škoro is the leader of the alliance. As for HDZ, it remains unclear whether they will contest alone or form a coalition, but HDS and HSLS are still part of the ruling coalition, while the HDZ's other partners from the previous election (HRAST) have left the alliance and joined the opposition. 93.138.127.97 09:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.89.152 (talk)
- UPDATES: SDP now has an alliance with HSS, HSU, Glas and SNAGA, which took the formal name Restart Coalition. Also, Škoro's existing alliance was expanded with the Croatian Sovereignists coalition (which is thus an alliance within an alliance) and now has 2 MPs (the second one is from HRAST, which is a member of the pre-existing Sovereignists). 93.138.127.97 10:11, 9 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.89.152 (talk)
- I would say that just because parties are part of a coalition government, it does not mean they will contest the next election as a single list or party. Will the alliances in question present a single list at the next election, or will they run separately but agree to work together afterwards? Number 57 11:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- The Restart Coalition and Škoro's alliance will present single lists for the parties that are within them. So it will be impossible to vote for e.g. the Social Democratic Party's candidate without that vote automatically being counted as a vote for the alliance as a whole. The parties forming each alliance will distribute the 14 spots on the party list in each electoral district among themselves. So for example the Party of Pensioners (as part of the Restart alliance) could be given three spots in district X, while being given no spots on the list in district Y. These are all pre-election coalitions. As for the HDZ situation, stricktly speaking neither HSLS nor HDS is a member of the government because they have no ministers in the cabinet (the Plenković cabinet only has ministers from the HDZ and from the Croatian People's Party - Liberal Democrats (HNS), which only entered the government in 2017 after the Most party left, and there is no chance that HNS - as a centre-left party, will run with the HDZ). However, both HSLS and HDS ran with the HDZ in 2016 and in 2015, and they technically form a coalition until further notice. So I guess it's justified to leave the existing coalition intact until (or if) it is dissolved. I would compare this to the situation with the CDU and the CSU in Germany or the Liberal-National Coalition in Australia. They don't have to state before each election that they will run together because it is assumed from the current state of things. But, if the situation changed then it's no problem to list HDZ, HSLS and HDS separately 93.138.127.97 12:30, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks for the explanation. Number 57 12:31, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- I've looked into the matter regarding the HDZ, HSLS, HDS issue and it's seems the Prime Minister himself has stated that the HDZ will contest the elections on its own (thereby dissolving the existing coalition as of the next election). So these parties will be listed sepearately. 93.138.127.97 13:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.89.152 (talk)
- Cool, thanks for the explanation. Number 57 12:31, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- The Restart Coalition and Škoro's alliance will present single lists for the parties that are within them. So it will be impossible to vote for e.g. the Social Democratic Party's candidate without that vote automatically being counted as a vote for the alliance as a whole. The parties forming each alliance will distribute the 14 spots on the party list in each electoral district among themselves. So for example the Party of Pensioners (as part of the Restart alliance) could be given three spots in district X, while being given no spots on the list in district Y. These are all pre-election coalitions. As for the HDZ situation, stricktly speaking neither HSLS nor HDS is a member of the government because they have no ministers in the cabinet (the Plenković cabinet only has ministers from the HDZ and from the Croatian People's Party - Liberal Democrats (HNS), which only entered the government in 2017 after the Most party left, and there is no chance that HNS - as a centre-left party, will run with the HDZ). However, both HSLS and HDS ran with the HDZ in 2016 and in 2015, and they technically form a coalition until further notice. So I guess it's justified to leave the existing coalition intact until (or if) it is dissolved. I would compare this to the situation with the CDU and the CSU in Germany or the Liberal-National Coalition in Australia. They don't have to state before each election that they will run together because it is assumed from the current state of things. But, if the situation changed then it's no problem to list HDZ, HSLS and HDS separately 93.138.127.97 12:30, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- I would say that just because parties are part of a coalition government, it does not mean they will contest the next election as a single list or party. Will the alliances in question present a single list at the next election, or will they run separately but agree to work together afterwards? Number 57 11:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- UPDATES: SDP now has an alliance with HSS, HSU, Glas and SNAGA, which took the formal name Restart Coalition. Also, Škoro's existing alliance was expanded with the Croatian Sovereignists coalition (which is thus an alliance within an alliance) and now has 2 MPs (the second one is from HRAST, which is a member of the pre-existing Sovereignists). 93.138.127.97 10:11, 9 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.89.152 (talk)
- SDP has a formal alliance with HSS, HSU and SNAGA. Also, Bloc for Croatia has an alliance with Škoro's Homeland Movement and the coalition's only current MP (Hasanbegović) is from the Bloc, but Škoro is the leader of the alliance. As for HDZ, it remains unclear whether they will contest alone or form a coalition, but HDS and HSLS are still part of the ruling coalition, while the HDZ's other partners from the previous election (HRAST) have left the alliance and joined the opposition. 93.138.127.97 09:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.89.152 (talk)
- I think the new infobox looks good. But one question – why have the HDS and HSLS been included with the HDZ (and HSS, HSU and SNAGA been included with the SDP). Are they contesting the upcoming election in a formal alliance (as that is usually the only reason they're grouped)? Cheers, Number 57 12:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- I would suggest the best way of complying with WP:NPOV would be to include all parties that currently have seats, like 2020 Serbian parliamentary election or Next United Kingdom general election. The infobox would also be far more compact. Number 57 13:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
DPMŠ
edit@Tuvixer: Can you tell me why purple is used? (because you changed it) Braganza (talk) 10:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- The color is used by main televisions in Croatia. This kind of questions are time wasting. --Tuvixer (talk) 11:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Results with 99.54 percent being counted
editHDZ 66 seats// Restart 41 seats// DPMS 16 seats// MOST 8 seats// Green-left 7 seats// Others 5 seats// Minorities 8 seats
https://www.telegram.hr/parlamentarni-izbori-2020/
Massive victory for the center-right HDZ and a strong result for the right-wing conservative DPMS, pre-election polls indicating a neck and neck race with slight advantages for the SocialDemocrats turned out to be completly misleading.
Alternative results table
editRather than the footnotes explaining the seat division between parties, what do people think about this as an alternative to the current results table? I wasn't sure whether it was a bit too complicated. Cheers, Number 57 15:01, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Party or alliance | Votes | % | Seats | |||
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HDZ Coalition | Croatian Democratic Union | 621,035 | 37.26 | 62 | ||
Croatian Social Liberal Party | 2 | |||||
Croatian Demochristian Party | 1 | |||||
HDSSB | 1 | |||||
Total | 66 | |||||
Restart Coalition | Social Democratic Party of Croatia | 414,645 | 24.87 | 35 | ||
Istrian Democratic Assembly | 3 | |||||
Croatian Peasant Party | 2 | |||||
Croatian Party of Pensioners | 1 | |||||
Civic Liberal Alliance | 0 | |||||
Total | 41 | |||||
DPMŠ Coalition | Miroslav Škoro Homeland Movement | 181,493 | 10.89 | 10 | ||
Croatian Conservative Party | 4 | |||||
Croatian Growth | 1 | |||||
Bloc for Croatia | 1 | |||||
Green List | 0 | |||||
SU | 0 | |||||
Bridge of Independent Lists | 123,194 | 7.39 | 8 | |||
Green–Left | We can! | 116,483 | 6.99 | 5 | ||
Workers' Front | 1 | |||||
New Left | 1 | |||||
Sustainable Development of Croatia | 0 | |||||
SIP–P–Focus | Party with a First and Last Name | 66,399 | 3.98 | 1 | ||
Intelligently | 1 | |||||
Focus | 1 | |||||
Enough of Robbery | 37,628 | 2.26 | 0 | |||
Croatian People's Party – Liberal Democrats | 21,727 | 1.30 | 1 | |||
People's Party – Reformists | 16,900 | 1.01 | 1 | |||
Bandić Milan 365 – Labour and Solidarity Party | 9,897 | 0.59 | 0 | |||
Croatian Civic Party | 7,399 | 0.44 | 0 | |||
Right League | Independents for Croatia | 7,266 | 0.44 | 0 | ||
Croatian Party of Rights | 0 | |||||
Democrats–HL–RI | Democrats | 6,594 | 0.40 | 0 | ||
Croatian Labourists – Labour Party | 0 | |||||
Lista za Rijeku – Lista per Fiume | 0 | |||||
Authentic Croatian Party of Rights | 5,343 | 0.32 | 0 | |||
Pensioners Together Bloc | 5,268 | 0.32 | 0 | |||
Croatian Democratic Party | 2,465 | 0.15 | 0 | |||
Strength of Slavonia and Baranja | 2,294 | 0.14 | 0 | |||
Socialist Labour Party of Croatia | 2,149 | 0.13 | 0 | |||
Union of Kvarner | 2,044 | 0.12 | 0 | |||
Movement for a Modern Croatia | 1,307 | 0.08 | 0 | |||
My Beloved Croatia | 978 | 0.06 | 0 | |||
Authentic Croatian Peasant Party | 958 | 0.06 | 0 | |||
BDSH–HBPS | BDSH | 768 | 0.05 | 0 | ||
HBPS | 0 | |||||
Croatian Party of the Future | 732 | 0.04 | 0 | |||
Croatian Civil Resistance Party | 714 | 0.04 | 0 | |||
Independent List of Bura | 626 | 0.04 | 0 | |||
Free Croatia | 605 | 0.04 | 0 | |||
Croatian Perspective Party | 576 | 0.03 | 0 | |||
Croatian Community Party | 405 | 0.02 | 0 | |||
Croatian Party of Order | 338 | 0.02 | 0 | |||
Alphabet of Democracy | 219 | 0.01 | 0 | |||
Independents | 8,524 | 0.51 | 0 | |||
National minorities | 8 | |||||
Total | 1,666,973 | 100.00 | 151 | |||
Valid votes | 1,666,973 | 97.73 | ||||
Invalid/blank votes | 38,713 | 2.27 | ||||
Total votes | 1,705,686 | 100.00 | ||||
Registered voters/turnout | 3,672,555 | 46.44 | ||||
Source: Izbori |
- Not a fan, to be honest. How about using the sort of table used on the french speaking wiki? It allow for the total of seats per coalition to be shown. --Aréat (talk) 15:15, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- A total row for alliances can be added in (as I've done above for the HDZ and Restart coalitions). Number 57 16:31, 4 January 2022 (UTC)