Talk:2020 Indian Premier League

Latest comment: 3 years ago by A Simple Human in topic Naming Convention

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2020

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Change Feroz Shah Kotla to Arun Jaitley Stadium 103.218.170.25 (talk) 08:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

  Done Thanks User:103.218.170.25!

Ipl Logo Edit

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Please Donot ruine rhe image of professional tournament with your blurry image logo. I Request You to not Edit it again. Daljit8 (talk) 08:40, 5 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Colour Box

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This is the first time when i saw a colour box before the team name, for example Click Here. This concept was made by @Selva15469: in a good faith. These color boxes are represent the teams's flag. I think colour box does harm any information. i want to know opinion of everyone what they thinks about these colour boxes.

Here i tag some sports project members.- @Lugnuts:, @Sagavaj:, @Spike 'em:, @Blue Square Thing:, @A Simple Human:, @Selva15469: Mr.Mani Raj Paul - talk 13:38, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Mr.Mani Raj Paul: I dont think it "harms" any information. If it is about MOS:FLAG then check out the Caribbean Premier League season articles. Get rid of them. Edit:Didn't read the MOS:ICON. This shouldn't even have a discussion. Human (talk) 13:46, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
The "harm" is that it is unnecessary decoration in violation of MOS:ICON. Do the colour boxes really help anyone? People aren't generally looking for the colours when searching for a team in the league table or in a list of results, so these icons are an unnecessary distraction, especially for our readers who may be visually impaired and have trouble identifying the colours. – PeeJay 14:27, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Agree with the above comment. This doesn't add any additional information and hence can be deemed unnecessary. This is also not some official flag like national flags which was the case in CPL. SaGa (talk) 14:40, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
I agree with PJ: ditch the colo(u)r boxes. They don't mean anything, are distracting and breach MOS:ICON. Spike 'em (talk) 14:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Agree, seems like a violation of MOS:ICON; colours are purely decorative and don't really add anything. wjematherplease leave a message... 14:45, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Get rid, they don't add anything, as per above comment. Unlike the flags on Caribbean Premier League which make sense as each team represents a different country. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:49, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
I'm not sure they are valid in CPL either: the teams are franchises that happen to be based in different countries; they are not national teams. Spike 'em (talk) 15:58, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi, @A Simple Human:, @PeeJay:, @Sagavaj:, @Wjemather:, @Joseph2302:, @Spike 'em:, Color boxes are added for identifying respective teams easily. Without them, one would search a team name in every 56 matches, which is quite tough. I ask sorry for not adding the alt text in color boxes, which is important to make them accessible for the visually impaired users.

Color boxes are similar to adding colorful international flags before every teams, which helps in easier identification. They're used for encyclopedic purpose only, not decorative. "Icons should serve an encyclopedic purpose and not merely be decorative. They should provide additional useful information on the article subject, serve as visual cues that aid the reader's comprehension, or improve navigation."

So, I request all of you to support this idea. Thank you. Selva15469 (talk) 03:00, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Selva15469: Easier identification is not an encyclopedic purpose. It does not add any infos. And colors and pseudoflags have been removed from other leagues before. You can just use ctrl+F and type in keywords to find what you need. Human (talk) 04:33, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@A Simple Human:, Easier identification means reader's comprehension. It improves navigation, as we can navigate easily through many lines, by using the specific color of a team. What about the people who don't know the ctrl+F shortcut? We can also use ctrl+F for international matches, then why flags are required before international teams and their players? Wikipedia pages should be user-friendly. The color boxes have official colors of respective teams like the official flags of national teams. So, I request you and all other users kindly to support my idea. Thank you. Selva15469 (talk) 06:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Get rid of these colours. This quote "Color boxes are similar to adding colorful international flags before every teams, which helps in easier identification" seems to be mis-leading - compare the boxes for Delhi and Mumbai next to each other:
At fist glance, they look very similar to me, and if anything makes it harder for identification. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
I don't see how colours make them easier to identify, and MOS:COLOR also says that colours shouldn't be used as a primary way of identifying thinhs, which is what this is trying to do. Only serious fans would know the team colours anyway, so they add nothing to a normal, casual reader. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:42, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
If there is matter of team identification then this idea can be implement?

file:Chennai Super Kings Logo.svg Chennai Super Kings
file:Delhi_Capitals_Logo.svg Delhi Capitals
file:Kings XI Punjab logo.svg Kings Xi Punjab
Mr.Mani Raj Paul - talk 07:45, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

No. Fair-use of copyrighted logos only extends to very limited use, and that would far exceed that limitation. Not only that, the size they'd need to shrink down to would make them indistinguishable. wjematherplease leave a message... 08:16, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
No, those are covered by MOS:LOGO too. It also states Generally, addition of logos to article prose or tabular data does not improve the encyclopedia and leads to confusing visual clutter. whic covers color boxes too. Spike 'em (talk) 08:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Also, please note that there used to be a set of {{cr-IPL}} templates that used to do this (add little coloured icons, sometimes with a stripe) and they were deleted, along with their PSL and BPL counterparts here. Spike 'em (talk) 08:22, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
In which case, there is a very clear consensus from that TfD not to have these. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:47, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 14 September 2020

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Haris Amrin777 (talk) 11:34, 14 September 2020 (UTC)Reply


  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Spike 'em (talk) 12:33, 14 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sponsors

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Does anyone else think that listing 10 sponsors per team is completely excessive per WP:IINFO? It completely overwhelms the table it is part of and is of frankly no encyclopaedic value. I can see the point in perhaps the 3 shirt sponsors, but to list every logo that appears on a player's kit is too much. Spike 'em (talk) 13:27, 14 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Agree. Wikipedia is not a promotional tool/advertising medium. Detailing main sponsors is acceptable, but that is all. wjematherplease leave a message... 17:29, 14 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia is not for promotion that's right But i have seen many articles of sports leagues with sponcers listed around 10. Abhishe78 (talk) 03:29, 16 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Check these articles https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%9321_La_Liga https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%9321_Thai_League_1 Abhishe78 (talk) 03:32, 16 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

The Thai league one looks completely excessive to me too. Just because another article is poorly written does not mean this one needs to as well. I think the 3 main sponsors currently listed is more than enough. What encyclopaedic value does it add to list 10 minor sponsors? Spike 'em (talk) 08:11, 16 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Exactly. And to be clear about my earlier comments, my preference is to get rid of all such listings as there is no particular relevance or significance to the edition of the tournament. They may warrant mention in the team articles in the context of the sponsorship deals (i.e. not an indiscriminate list) where there are sufficient reliable sources to confirm significance to the subject (e.g. main sponsors, title sponsors, etc.). In other words, it may be appropriate to detail some shirt sponsors in an article about the team they are sponsoring, but probably not in an article about the competition they play in. wjematherplease leave a message... 10:34, 16 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2020

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Change   Mohammad Shami to   Mohammad Shami 2601:246:5580:18D0:5580:DC12:EADC:4AFF (talk) 02:12, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

  Done -ink&fables «talk» 02:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Adding a source and data for the first double super over in

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https://www.india.com/sports/ipl-2020-mi-vs-kxip-how-kings-xi-punjab-won-the-first-double-super-over-in-leagues-history-4177721/ Can anyone add it? Saidur Mursalin (talk) 17:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC) Not done: Could you indicate in what part of the article where you would like the citation? Jurisdicta (talk) 23:32, 12 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2020

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Add "Chennai Super Kings were eliminated as a result of this match." as a pointer in match 45 (MI vs RR). Vaishwik Mishra (talk) 05:01, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 06:26, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Naming Convention

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Shouldn't it be renamed to 2020-21 Indian Premier League as per the naming conventions of tournaments? --PratyyaG (talk) 15:59, 18 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Pratyya Ghosh: Not really. The original tournament was in the 2020 season so it is named that way. Also see my message on your talk page. Thanks Human (talk) 05:33, 24 December 2020 (UTC)Reply