Talk:2020 Jawaharlal Nehru University attack
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Edits at ABVP
editCan the editors of this page review the edits being made to Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad? Thanks. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:07, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kautilya3 Such POV pushing may continue if you keep only "According to JNSU". An additional line should be mentioned, like: "later leaders of ABVP confessed and it was also found out through sting operation and investigative journalim", so no other user may think of removing it or modify. Dey subrata (talk) 16:28, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. Just stating JNUSU claims without saying what RS say is quite pointless. Can you add some content and sources there? Thanks. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:39, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kautilya3 Added a line with citations, you can modify it. Dey subrata (talk) 17:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. Just stating JNUSU claims without saying what RS say is quite pointless. Can you add some content and sources there? Thanks. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:39, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
The violent clash at Periyar Hostel has not been included in the article.
editAccording to various media reports 1, 2 the violence occurred in two phases in JNU. One was attack on Periyar hostel which started at 3.45 where students belonging to left organizations attacked common students. This was the time when first call to police control room was made. Here's how the events unfolded. Various visuals of attack at Periyar hostel are also available on the web. Why is it not being included in the article? Is report by a government agency only valid when it succumbs to a certain ideologue? --YoloSCIS (talk) 07:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- First no "violent" clash at Periyar at that time by report and secondly, the article is about the masked mob attack which almost killed people. Secondly, these reports are made on video which claimed by some media to be an attack where Aishe Ghosh believed to be seen which came out to be false instead. It would be violation of WP:NPOV and WP:OR. Dey subrata (talk) 08:51, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Firstly, there WAS a violent attack at Periyar Hostel. White washing of events won't help. Students not belonging to left orgs were admitted to hospital.'The students claimed that when they reached Periyar hostel, where “several ABVP students live”, stones were thrown at them from inside. “This led to a clash which died down in about an hour. I saw a group beating up an ABVP student. Some people went into the hostel as well,”' Testimonial by a student. Secondly, the article is about Jawaharlal Nehru University Attack which occurred in two steps. First at Periyar Hostel and second at Sabarmati Hostel. This article says "Students from Left groups attacked Periyar Hostel. The faces of several students were muffled. Some members, including the JNUSU president, were identified. A specific room was targeted." Third, even the official twitter account admitted it was Aishe Ghosh in the video. [1]. A simple google search would have shown that indeed it was Ms. Ghosh with the masked goons at Periyar hostel. Also, video of a person named Chunchun Kumar pelting stones at Periyar hostel at daytime were also released. These are important details to mention and should be mentioned. Currently this article seems like a press release by the students union which is detrimental to the integrity of Wikipedia. Please make the article more balanced and do not remove such essential details which clearly bring out the partake of left in the violence. WP:FIXBIAS --YoloSCIS (talk) 17:00, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Go by WP:TLDR and stop WP:GASLIGHT. A simple google search will show you 1000s of fake news. The article written after going through every citations and citations added in the article describe well enough what happened. The article is about masked mob attack that came from outside the campus which was organised through whatapp group. Clashes between the two group always happened but not such attack and it has been well included. No left group people attacked hostel there is no evidence of it and there is no video showing Aishe ghosh attacking any hostel. Not a single citation able to give evidence of it. So, stop this POV pushing And Republic tv is biased per RSN, so don't add it again here. Dey subrata (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Wow! First, you denied Aishe Ghosh was at all present with masked men. You could not do a google search to verify that. Now you come up with pathetic excuse of WP:TLDR! . I had hoped better from a guilded wikipedia editor. It was an attack at Periyar hostel. Several articles mention it. You would find it only if you could be "neutral" but seems you are not! Read WP:EDITORINTEGRITY Alas but Wikipedia is not your personal diary so you don't get to decide what is credible or not and neither what goes here! Please don't bully me! You need to check WP:INTREF --YoloSCIS (talk) 17:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- I still deny that Ghosh was present with masked men to attack any hostel, because there is no evidence of it. Its utterly bizzare that Aishe Ghosh hammered her own own head and almost got killed by herself, and the video that you are suggesting I've seen that a lot, except that there no other video, and that video does not tell me what you are saying, period. Republic is biased "per RSN", period. So, before bringing another false accusation on me, like "bullying you", "making wikipedia personal diary", "I'm deciding what source is credible when I already told you its per RSN", "I'm not neutral", you just crossed the line now, so think twice because next time you will end up replying at WP:ANI. Along with these accusation, I've also seen some of your edits at the ABVP article, and you POV pushing continued there too, so be careful what you are saying and doing and what not. This would be my last reply here, enough of your POV pushing. Dey subrata (talk) 21:10, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Wow! First, you denied Aishe Ghosh was at all present with masked men. You could not do a google search to verify that. Now you come up with pathetic excuse of WP:TLDR! . I had hoped better from a guilded wikipedia editor. It was an attack at Periyar hostel. Several articles mention it. You would find it only if you could be "neutral" but seems you are not! Read WP:EDITORINTEGRITY Alas but Wikipedia is not your personal diary so you don't get to decide what is credible or not and neither what goes here! Please don't bully me! You need to check WP:INTREF --YoloSCIS (talk) 17:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Go by WP:TLDR and stop WP:GASLIGHT. A simple google search will show you 1000s of fake news. The article written after going through every citations and citations added in the article describe well enough what happened. The article is about masked mob attack that came from outside the campus which was organised through whatapp group. Clashes between the two group always happened but not such attack and it has been well included. No left group people attacked hostel there is no evidence of it and there is no video showing Aishe ghosh attacking any hostel. Not a single citation able to give evidence of it. So, stop this POV pushing And Republic tv is biased per RSN, so don't add it again here. Dey subrata (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Firstly, there WAS a violent attack at Periyar Hostel. White washing of events won't help. Students not belonging to left orgs were admitted to hospital.'The students claimed that when they reached Periyar hostel, where “several ABVP students live”, stones were thrown at them from inside. “This led to a clash which died down in about an hour. I saw a group beating up an ABVP student. Some people went into the hostel as well,”' Testimonial by a student. Secondly, the article is about Jawaharlal Nehru University Attack which occurred in two steps. First at Periyar Hostel and second at Sabarmati Hostel. This article says "Students from Left groups attacked Periyar Hostel. The faces of several students were muffled. Some members, including the JNUSU president, were identified. A specific room was targeted." Third, even the official twitter account admitted it was Aishe Ghosh in the video. [1]. A simple google search would have shown that indeed it was Ms. Ghosh with the masked goons at Periyar hostel. Also, video of a person named Chunchun Kumar pelting stones at Periyar hostel at daytime were also released. These are important details to mention and should be mentioned. Currently this article seems like a press release by the students union which is detrimental to the integrity of Wikipedia. Please make the article more balanced and do not remove such essential details which clearly bring out the partake of left in the violence. WP:FIXBIAS --YoloSCIS (talk) 17:00, 7 May 2020 (UTC)