Talk:2021 Championship League (ranking)

Dashes

Generally we use three different symbols for "dashes" i.e. - – − . We use the hyphen in text for phrases like "round-robin" and "best-of-five". We use the endash for ranges and frame scores like "3–2". We use the minus sign for negative numbers like "−2". The endash and minus sign do look similar but it is important to use the right one. Nigej (talk) 06:21, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Indeed. These can be confusing, and I understand why you might get it wrong. However, reverting against policy repeatedly is why I put page protection on this page. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:06, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Gonzo fan2007 (talk · contribs) 03:18, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I'll review this one. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:18, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments

• In the prose parts of the article, you lower case groups, i.e. group E and group 9. Yet the sources appear to capitalize "group" and you capitalize group in the tables. Be consistent across the article.
  • I was going to comment on this, but it does seem like sources do treat these as a proper noun. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:27, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• In the summary section, you have group eight but in the next section group 9, "eight" should be "8"
  • Fixed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:27, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• World number 115 won group 24,, is the reader supposed to know who this is? (sorry, I don't know snooker very well)
  • Yeah,you are right - completely missed out the point! Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:27, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• According to the source, Anthony Hamilton scored 5 points in Group 1 during Stage 1 (you have 4)
  • The source is wrong. It's impossible for him to have five points after losing a game. Per WP:CALC, it's been fixed to the correct result.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:27, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• Where did you get the highest break data for inclusion in all the tables? The sources provided (at least to my eye) don't provide this.
  • That's because the WST (organisers) decided to take down their very well made statistics page, and replace it with something that doesn't work. I'll provide archives. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:35, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• Your sources for Stage 2 and Stage 3 are for the wrong year. Also, you have no source for the final. It looks like you already have the right sources in the article (Ref 8, 13, 18). Please fix this.
  • It was just the archive. This should be fixed now. I've added the cites for the final. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:43, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

References

• Refs 1, 26, 31 and 33 seem to be missing a lot of info. Why is this?
  • Should be fixed now - although with the combination below, the numbers have changed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• Refs 27-30 seems to be missing info, like the website field and the access-date field. That said, a lot of web sources are missing the access-date fields.
  • Website field is sorted on all, access-date isn't a specifically required item, but I've updated where I have seen it. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• Are sources 3 and 4 the exact same? If so, use the ref name function to join them together.
• You have a number of duplicative references. Please use the "ref name" function in the reference tag to combine these.
  • A quick refill seems to have solved this. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• Spot checks: TBD (gonna hold off until you address the items above). Will be easier for me to spot check at that point.

Lee Vilenski, overall good article, but definitely needs some work in the reference department. Let me know when you have addressed the items above, especially the references, and I will then complete the spot check. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:22, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

• • Hi! looks like mostly 'cause I hadn't run IABot on this one, should be fixed now Gonzo fan2007.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:44, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
    • Thanks. Will finish off the spot check in a few minutes. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:19, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• Spot checks: 1, 2, 6, 8, 14, 19, 23
  • Ref 8 says Group 7, while the article and table say Group 8. Is this an error in the source?
  • Indeed. Eurosport doesn't usually make errors like this, but every other source says that it was group 8 that Williams was playing in. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Refs 21, 22, and 23 are dead to me. Are they working for you? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:26, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

  Yeah those refs are live at the added archives. Let me change them to be |url-status=dead. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:38, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Looks good. Passing. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:09, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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