Talk:2021 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game

Did you know nomination

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The result was: rejected by Mandarax (talk) 19:05, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Already appeared on ITN, so ineligible for DYK per Rule 1d.

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• ... that the 2021 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship Game between Baylor and Gonzaga was the first since 2005 to feature the top two overall NCAA Tournament seeds? Source: Gonzaga vs. Baylor for the NCAA Tournament championship is the perfect way to end an imperfect season
  • ALT1:... that Gonzaga was considered a "massive favorite" to win the 2021 NCAA tournament by ESPN and Yahoo!'s platforms, but lost to Baylor in the national championship game? Source: Baylor Romps Past Gonzaga for National Title

• Reviewed: To be completed
• Comment: Article is also nominated for ITN here; if both nominations are successful, the ITN blurb will likely exit the main page before this is posted.

5x expanded by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 04:25, 6 April 2021 (UTC).

• It's already been posted on ITN. It's good to have covered your bases, but an WP:ITNR item was pretty much going to get posted barring page quality issues.—Bagumba (talk) 08:51, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Riley1012 (talk · contribs) 17:23, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I'll take a look at this within a week. -Riley1012 (talk) 17:23, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box

Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

1. Well-written

• "They were awarded an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament, and received the No. 1 seed in the South Regional." remove the comma
• "The pre-game and post-game shows included analysis by Greg Gumbel, Clark Kellogg, Kenny Smith, and Charles Barkley, Seth Davis, and Jim Jackson" This could be re-written into two sentences by separating the analysts for the pre-game and post-game shows (ex: The pre-game show included analysis by Greg...., and the post-game show included Charles...")
  •  Done both. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

2. Verifiable

• Is there a source for note a?
  • Removed. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
• References that need to be archived to a 2021 capture: 2, 6, 17
  • I ran IABot and it added 39 archives. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
• "This was the second consecutive championship game where both teams were playing for their programs' first NCAA title." Source?
  •  Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
• "Baylor also became the first team from the state of Texas to win the national championship since Texas Western in 1966." Source?
  •  Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
• Source for starting lineups?
  •  Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Ref layout is good and copyvio check looks good.

3. Broad

• Could the Media section be expanded by adding viewing number information?
  • Missed this one, but I'm adding now. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:05, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Now this is  Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:10, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Article is focused

4. Neutral
Article is neutral in its coverage

5. Stable
Article is stable

6. Illustrated
One photo of MOP Jared Butler is free use

-Riley1012 (talk) 20:09, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@Riley1012: I think this is ready for another look! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@PCN02WPS: Okay, the changes look good to me! -Riley1012 (talk) 23:32, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 22:28, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that the 2021 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game between Baylor and Gonzaga was the first since 2005 to feature the top two overall NCAA Tournament seeds? Source: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/gonzaga-vs-baylor-for-the-ncaa-tournament-championship-is-the-perfect-way-to-end-an-imperfect-season/
  • ALT1: ... that Gonzaga was considered a "massive favorite" to win the 2021 NCAA tournament by ESPN and Yahoo!'s platforms, but lost to Baylor in the national championship game?Source: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/05/sports/gonzaga-baylor-live-score
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Home (officer)
  • Comment: This was nominated over a year ago but failed because it went to ITN. I do believe that i can still nominate this again though so here it is. Also yes, I did steal the hooks from the last nomination.

Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 21:21, 13 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2021 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: For the main hook, I think we are going with "NCAA tournament" (lowercase) now, since the tournament pages got moved to lowercase "t".[1] Also, would something like "... top two overall seeds of the NCAA tournament" read better, or even just plain "feature the top two overall seeds of the tournament"? —Bagumba (talk) 11:06, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Bagumba: I think something like "... that the 2021 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game between Baylor and Gonzaga was the first since 2005 to feature the top two overall seeds of the NCAA tournament?" with the same wikilinks. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:07, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: Go ahead place it here as an ALT2 (with the formatting), and I can approve it. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 11:03, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Bagumba: Alt2 "... that the 2021 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game between Baylor and Gonzaga was the first since 2005 to feature the top two overall seeds of the NCAA tournament?" Onegreatjoke (talk) 14:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Approved ALT2. ALT1 with "massive blowout" seemed like too much of cliche to be interesting.—Bagumba (talk) 15:50, 15 March 2023 (UTC)