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Hi @Happyjit Singh, can you please discuss here why are you placing the css crop images which is entirely focussing on the face alone that seems to reduce the quality of the article. 456legendtalk 14:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- It makes the picture uniform. See other pages. Happyjit Singh (talk) 14:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Happyjit Singh stop reverting unless we reach to a conensus here. It makes the picture uniform. See other pages. This statement is very general in nature. Additionally you are replacing a non free image on the article which has been removed by the bot multiple times. 456legendtalk 14:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Then change the picture See Next West Bengal Legislative Assembly election for example. Happyjit Singh (talk) 14:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Happyjit Singh what is the basis for placing images overly focussed on the person face? I don't think any such guideliness are provided by the Wikiproject concerned. Considering the previous election articles of Andhra Pradesh, the images are upto the bust size and look fine enhancing the article quality. 456legendtalk 14:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- The old arties doesn't have many sections too. See recent election pages of other states. AP isn't outside India. Happyjit Singh (talk) 14:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Happyjit Singh, Having such customs on other state articles dosen't mean they are mandated by the relavant wikiproject, right? In that case you can look at: 2023 Telangana Legislative Assembly election, the images aren't overly focussed on the person face. They are maintained upto the bust size. 456legendtalk 14:40, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @456legend and @Happyjit Singh I have fixed the image to satisfy both of your suggestions as per best of my understanding. If you guys think that it still has needs something, please feel free to fix. ShaanSenguptaTalk 15:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you Happyjit Singh (talk) 15:08, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Shaan Sengupta, I tried fixing the infobox images on the 2014 Andhra Pradesh Legislative Assembly election and 2018 Telangana Legislative Assembly election, but I think a one or two images are not in proper shape. Can you please help in fixing them? Thank you 456legendtalk 08:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- @456legend Done. I have done as much as possible or as much as I could. Cheers. ShaanSenguptaTalk 10:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, that was helpful. 456legendtalk 10:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- @456legend Done. I have done as much as possible or as much as I could. Cheers. ShaanSenguptaTalk 10:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- @456legend and @Happyjit Singh I have fixed the image to satisfy both of your suggestions as per best of my understanding. If you guys think that it still has needs something, please feel free to fix. ShaanSenguptaTalk 15:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Happyjit Singh, Having such customs on other state articles dosen't mean they are mandated by the relavant wikiproject, right? In that case you can look at: 2023 Telangana Legislative Assembly election, the images aren't overly focussed on the person face. They are maintained upto the bust size. 456legendtalk 14:40, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- The old arties doesn't have many sections too. See recent election pages of other states. AP isn't outside India. Happyjit Singh (talk) 14:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Happyjit Singh what is the basis for placing images overly focussed on the person face? I don't think any such guideliness are provided by the Wikiproject concerned. Considering the previous election articles of Andhra Pradesh, the images are upto the bust size and look fine enhancing the article quality. 456legendtalk 14:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Then change the picture See Next West Bengal Legislative Assembly election for example. Happyjit Singh (talk) 14:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Happyjit Singh stop reverting unless we reach to a conensus here. It makes the picture uniform. See other pages. This statement is very general in nature. Additionally you are replacing a non free image on the article which has been removed by the bot multiple times. 456legendtalk 14:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Latest edit - JSP infobox
editHi @Cvrr, it would be better if we can discuss here about the addition fo the JSP to the infobox. JSP was considered as the strong contestant in the previous election making a electoral debut but failed to win any seats and thus I don't think it qualifies to be considered as a strong contender this time. But considering the fact that there might be a change momentum in the reality we shall wait until the results and adding it then would be better. Please put in your ideas and thoughts here before you make any changes on the mainspace. 456legendtalk 07:08, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @456legend, if anything, in the last 4-5 years Janasena has improved its strength. So, there is no doubt that Janasena is a strong contender in the 2024 elections. Also, I don't understand why you have removed TDP + JSP or JSP + TDP alliance name I have put. It has been clearly stated by Pawan Kalyan that Janasena is not a tail party of TDP, but is standing beside it shoulder to shoulder. Also, the alliance is no where named as TDP+. Pawan Kalyan has also clearly stated that in his meetings he will call the alliance as Janasena + TDP alliance. So, I think what change I have made is completely right.
- "it would be better if we can discuss here about the addition fo the JSP to the infobox" - Actually it would been better if you've asked me this before deleting JSP from the infobox. Whatever vote share or seats it might have gotten or will get, it deserves a place in the info box, for reference you can check the infoboxes in 2009 and 2014 for AP Elections.
- Also, I 100% disagree with your idea that we should wait for the results before adding any party to the infobox. People visiting the page deserve to know about all parties contesting before the election so that they can take proper decision.
- Please do revert your changes. Let me know if you have objections. Cvrr (talk) 07:28, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Cvrr, thank you for replying at the earliest. First thing you must understand that any content addition that is contested shall be removed at the first place and will be discussed whether to add it or not. You must be sure about the Wikipedia guidelines before you start editing.
- Secondly coming to your confrontation I don't understand why you have removed the TDP + JSP or JSP + TDP, to answer you must refer to the previous editing history on this article where I was the first person who added TDP + JSP in the campaign section but subsequently informed by another user that only a major contender from the alliance will be placed in the mainspace.
- Finally the claims you have made that JSP has improved its strength. So, there is no doubt that Janasena is a strong contender in the 2024 elections, here it is not you or me to decide but the sources you provide to the article will. I clearely looked up on the available articles here currently on the article (note this, right now on the article) and the previous election 2019 article and came to a conclusion that JSP is not a major contender. You can and must provide references and sources to support your statement. 456legendtalk 07:39, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also invite other users active in the Wikipedia: WikiProject Indian politics scope to discuss on whether we should be including JSP in the infobox or not. If the claims are proven to be true along with the sources then I will be happy to get them added and further help in preventing it's removal from the article incase someone is disrupting.
- @Dhruv edits @Shaan Sengupta @MPGuy2823 456legendtalk 07:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @456legend, thanks to you too for replying at the earliest.
- "First thing you must understand that any content addition that is contested shall be removed at the first place and will be discussed whether to add it or not. You must be sure about the Wikipedia guidelines before you start editing." - Thank you for bringing my notice to this. I just did a simple google search and I couldn't find anything supporting it. That might be my mistake only. But, can you please provide link to it to me so that I can see and understand it.
- "I clearely looked up on the available articles here currently on the article (note this right now on the article) and the previous election artocle 2019 and came to a conclusion that JSP is not a major contender" - I've taken a glance at the articles right now on the page and I did not feel that way. Can you please paste the links of articles which made you think so? Again please note that as you've said that it is not for me to decide which party is strong and which is not, same applies to you and we must avoid any amount of subjectivity here(like you feeling that it is not a strong contender).
- I was the first person who added TDP + JSP in the campaign section but subsequently informed by another user that only a major contender from the alliance will be placed in the mainspace. - I understand this point, but we must understand that the seats are not yet declared and the balance can tip off anyside or could be equal. So, how can we decide which is major contender before them declaring the number of seats right now? Another follow-up question to it is that you've removed Jana Sena party's name from the Campaigns section as well. Does the same logic follow there? They might be doing their own campaign like Varahi campaign. Doesn't it require its due recognition?
- "Also, I 100% disagree with your idea that we should wait for the results before adding any party to the infobox. People visiting the page deserve to know about all parties contesting before the election so that they can take proper decision." - Please let me know your comments about this too. Also as I have mentioned, did you check 2009 and 2014 info boxes? Also please check the Telugu version of the this article itself. There also JSP is mentioned in the info box and the alliance is named TDP+JSP.
- @Dhruv edits @Shaan Sengupta @MPGuy2823 please let me know if my questions are valid or am I missing something? Cvrr (talk) 08:36, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cvrr There are a total of 24 sources on this article. None of the sources talk anything about JSP being considered as a strong contender. The 2 sources that I have added earlier highlights the formation of the alliance by the JSP Pawan Kalyan and subsequently the joint party committee. So I don't think your addition can be placed on the article in the first hand without discussing. Also you can re check my 1st mention where I didn't totally deny that JSP isn't a strong contender but requires strong sourcesto claim the same. I have also seen your edit on the 2019, where you have added JSP yourself and I didn't contest it to removed but improved further.
- Coming to the point that JSP leads a individual campaign called as Varahi cannot be considered as a part of the entire alliance,I agree to your point and for this purpose we can have a sub category under the alliance section. Initially I planned adding the Varahi and Yuvagalam padayatra but considering the fact that there is lot more time to the election, I didn't at the first which you can do since Wikipedia is a open source. Also you must acknowkedge that I am not being biased to one or the other to lead my opinion but I am here editing based on the sources available on the articles and the content in the previous election which constitutes a cross wiki addition.
- Finally I didn't understand the point of you mentioning 2009 and 2014 infoboxes. I have edited them myself recently as part of the cleanup and ensured to upgrade all the election articles in the Andhra Pradesh and Telangana scope. TRS, PRP, TDP and INC were considered major contenders and we're appropriately placed there.
- Also coming to Telugu Wikipedia content, I don't think a mere mention on a inter language wiki will support it's addition here on English wiki unless it is sourced.
- At last I am now confused on what all points we are being discussing to achieving concensus. Can we break it down so that it will be very convenient for other users to also take part in the discussion and we can assure the information to be placed? 456legendtalk 08:56, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Topics to be discussed:
- 1. Should JSP be placed on the Infobox?
- 2. What should the alliance be referred to?
- Are there any more points be discussed? 456legendtalk 08:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nope Cvrr (talk) 09:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @456legend Okay. Although I have a few concerns regarding your reply there is no point in arguing. Let's go step by step. Please tell me what is the issue with adding JSP to info box? Based on our previous interaction I guess it is that JSP is not a major contender.
- Let's start with your definition of Major contender. How are you defining YCP or TDP or TRS,PRP, even BJP (in 2014) as a major contender? You are claiming there is no article saying that JSP is a major contender. What article was there in 2019 or what article is there right now for 2024 which proves YCP and TDP to be major contender?? Cvrr (talk) 09:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Refer here Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian politics/Election: Article structure and you must check the sources available on the respective articles. The JSP was considered as major contender covered by the Reliable media houses during its debut in 2019. You must read the article and verify the available sources for the same on 2019 Andhra Pradesh Legislative Assembly election. Although JSP bagged 0 seats it was a major contender in the 2019 election and thus is not be removed which was done by some other user and later added by you which was left the same to abide by the Wikipedia: WikiProject Indian politics norms. Refering to this particular article as I said expect for 2 articles that I myself added the rest do not contain much source and news about JSP. If you still wish to get it added we can but before let's fetch some sources for the same and let us collectively expand the article. I think this fits the purpose? I have now added a sub category in the TDP+ to cover the individual party sections and subsequently covered the information for the JSP and left with the other. 456legendtalk 09:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cvrr I have looked upon your recent edit on 2023 Telangana Legislative Assembly election which included the addition of JSP which was unwanted after the election has now passed. If at all you wanted to have the JSP, then I belive this particular article of Andhra Pradesh would be more relevant. Anyways ain't going to argue more. Also incase you are affliated to any political entity personally it would be better to disclose it on wikipedia before you continue to edit. Wikipedia:Paid editing (guideline). 456legendtalk 09:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you mean by "unwanted". The discussion about my edit in the 2023 Telangana Assembly Elections is no where connected to this thread. I don't understand why you are bringing that up here. In fact, your reply seems "unwanted" in this context.
- Why are you stalking my profile? If you have an issue about my edit under Telangana elections, add a comment there and we can have the same discussion there. Or if it violates any rules go ahead and remove it like you did it for this article. No ones stopping you. Why are you dragging that here and suggesting that I may be doing paid editing?
- @Dhruv edits @Shaan Sengupta @MPGuy2823, guys I'm new to editing wikipedia pages and hence may be a bit uninformed regarding the rules and regulations, but is @456legend's behaviour correct in this context? Please guide me. Cvrr (talk) 09:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Although JSP bagged 0 seats - Let me correct you here. JSP did win 1 seat and got 5.5+% vote share. I don't understand how that is not enough to consider it as a major contender for 2024.
- Still I don't understand which reference under 2019 article suggests JSP is a major contender and which reference under 2024 is not saying so (according to you). I'm asking this again and again because I want to understand what kind of article I should bring and add as a source to add JSP to the info box.
- 7/26 articles under 2024 article talk about JSP. Cvrr (talk) 09:36, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- "Refer here Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian politics/Election: Article structure and you must check the sources available on the respective articles. The JSP was considered as major contender covered by the Reliable media houses during its debut in 2019. You must read the article and verify the available sources for the same on 2019 Andhra Pradesh Legislative Assembly election." - This is what you said above, but your edit summary says "Not a strong contestant as per the previous electoral data. Shall wait for the addition until the result". How are they matching? Also, the info that JSP bagged 0 seats in the last election is wrong. Now, can you tell me what's stopping you from reverting the JSP section from infobox? I'll be more that happy to try and find the articles or whatever info required to contribute to the article and make it more comprehensive. Cvrr (talk) 10:02, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think now you are making some allegations on me like stalking which is not considered civil on Wikipedia, so I better decide to not continue with this discussion here and recuse myself from this article entirely. You can end up doing that you intend to and I will let the other users tagged to decide with the rest of that is right or wrong. Sorry if you are agigated with this but that was not civil challenging my behaviour. I would have not started this discussion all myself if I had to end up being alleged with some allegation. (I don't think looking up on some other user activity on Wikipedia is restricted? This is a open source and don't name it words like stalking) Thank you. 456legendtalk 10:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sure.
- I want to clarify to anyone else reading after this reply as to why I had to use the word "stalking". As can be seen above @456legend has brought up another edit I did to a different page to this thread without any relevance at all to this discussion and started suggesting that I may be doing paid editing. I consider that as a challenge on my character.
- I am fully aware that this is open source and everyone can look up each others profiles, but bringing up some other unrelated edit here to question my character suggesting/questioning if I'm doing paid editing is no where civil too and definitely unacceptable to me.
- I will be adding JSP info to the infobox as
- 1. It got 1 seat last time and 5.53% vote percentage.
- 2. It is mentioned in 7/26 articles under the article itself and hence it can be considered as a major contender according the rules shared about itself.
- If this is violating any rules and regulations I leave it in the hands of the able people moderating this to take appropriate action. Thanks! Cvrr (talk) 10:24, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- rules shared above* itself. Cvrr (talk) 10:40, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think now you are making some allegations on me like stalking which is not considered civil on Wikipedia, so I better decide to not continue with this discussion here and recuse myself from this article entirely. You can end up doing that you intend to and I will let the other users tagged to decide with the rest of that is right or wrong. Sorry if you are agigated with this but that was not civil challenging my behaviour. I would have not started this discussion all myself if I had to end up being alleged with some allegation. (I don't think looking up on some other user activity on Wikipedia is restricted? This is a open source and don't name it words like stalking) Thank you. 456legendtalk 10:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cvrr I have looked upon your recent edit on 2023 Telangana Legislative Assembly election which included the addition of JSP which was unwanted after the election has now passed. If at all you wanted to have the JSP, then I belive this particular article of Andhra Pradesh would be more relevant. Anyways ain't going to argue more. Also incase you are affliated to any political entity personally it would be better to disclose it on wikipedia before you continue to edit. Wikipedia:Paid editing (guideline). 456legendtalk 09:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Refer here Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian politics/Election: Article structure and you must check the sources available on the respective articles. The JSP was considered as major contender covered by the Reliable media houses during its debut in 2019. You must read the article and verify the available sources for the same on 2019 Andhra Pradesh Legislative Assembly election. Although JSP bagged 0 seats it was a major contender in the 2019 election and thus is not be removed which was done by some other user and later added by you which was left the same to abide by the Wikipedia: WikiProject Indian politics norms. Refering to this particular article as I said expect for 2 articles that I myself added the rest do not contain much source and news about JSP. If you still wish to get it added we can but before let's fetch some sources for the same and let us collectively expand the article. I think this fits the purpose? I have now added a sub category in the TDP+ to cover the individual party sections and subsequently covered the information for the JSP and left with the other. 456legendtalk 09:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have one small question, what is the deciding factor for the party to be mentioned in the box ? Is there any objective measures or no ?
- Also, I think this conflict can be resolved after the elections, depending on the vote share received by the party. It would be best if there was a certain criteria. Plutonimus (talk) 09:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Too long; didn't read Hello 456legend, Cvrr As far as I can understand from just looking at it from above, its about whether to add JSP in infobox or not. And how to refer to the alliance. Well JSP is not considered a major contender by the reliable sources and opinion polls are a proof of that. So it can't be added. Also we can refer the alliance as TDP + JSP provided that there is no harm in it. Had there been more than two parties we could have mentioned it is TDP+ but since there are only 2 TDP+JSP is ok. ShaanSenguptaTalk 10:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Well JSP is not considered a major contender by the reliable sources and opinion polls are a proof of that - I have a couple of points here.
- 1. It got 1 seat and around 6% vote percentage last time.
- 2. 7/26 news links talk about it under the article.
- 3. No reliable sources and opinion polls are there under the article for the other two parties too. So, why to dismiss only JSP as not a strong/major contender.
- We have many articles asserting that TDP & JSP alliance is strong and both parties will get sizable vote share and seats. Even ones where they are claiming Janasena seat count tally will be a bit lower.
- https://www.m9.news/politics/janasena-tdp-will-win-135-155-mla-seats-raghu-rama-krishna-raju/
- https://www.m9.news/politics/survey-janasena-party-chances-in-2024-elections/
- https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/tdp-jsp-combine-will-win-160-assembly-seats-in-2024-elections-asserts-tdp-leader-atchannaidu/article67658361.ece Cvrr (talk) 11:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- The first two sources are not well established reliable sources in Wikipedia. The third one is on a statement by a leader of the alliance. Also just bcoz new agencies are talking about some party doesnt make it major. It is decided by independent analysis done by reliable sources. As for the two mentioned one is having its govt and one had just before this. So no source is needed for them. ShaanSenguptaTalk 11:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. I get it. However a couple of points here:
- 1. TDP won in 2014 elections by forming a pre-poll alliance with Janasena Party. So, technically although it did not contest any seats, JSP was part of the previous government.
- 2. Isn't getting 1 seat and around 6% vote percentage in 2019 election enough for it to be considered major contender?? How many seats or vote percentage it should have gotten to be considered as such?
- 3. Can you please give me a few examples of 'reliable' 'independent' sources required to add a political party to the info box? I'm asking this as when we get an opinion poll or anything from there I will cite it and add it. Also, one feedback - adding some party only if it gets some seats according to "independent" "reliable" opinion polls which aren't released till just before the election doesn't seem like a good criteria. People will miss out on info till then. Won't they? Cvrr (talk) 11:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I will take excerpts from your given sources only.
In the 52 constituencies we are talking about, Janasena has real chances of winning only in six constituencies, and that too they are not in a decisive position there but have very good chances. In the remaining 46 constituencies, their votes can influence the chances of TDP and YSR Congress. If at all, TDP gives all these 52 constituencies to Janasena, there is a danger of YSR Congress taking a majority in the remaining 42 constituencies. That will ruin the chances of TDP as well and so, it makes no sense to give so many seats to Janasena. Even though it may sound disappointing to Janasainiks, it is very unrealistic to expect more than 15-20 seats in the alliance.
See this itself says that it is not a major contender. Also a party with 0 representation in assembly is not "even technically" a part of govt. Amd reliable independent established sources are the ones that have some credibility and history of correct analysis and news not fake. Example India Today, Hindustan Times etc. ShaanSenguptaTalk 11:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)- "We have many articles asserting that TDP & JSP alliance is strong and both parties will get sizable vote share and seats. Even ones where they are claiming Janasena seat count tally will be a bit lower." I have already acknowledged it , didn't I? Also the reason I'm having to rely on such sources is because the opinion polls are not yet out which is your criteria for me adding JSP to the info box.
- Also Isn't getting 6/52 seats enough? How many seats should it get according to you for being considered a major contender? Please answer this question. 10? 20? 50? How many?
- Please answer this too as I think I'll be able to add it only after the opinion polls based on your criteria. Can you please give me a few examples of 'reliable' 'independent' sources required to add a political party to the info box? I'm asking this as when we get an opinion poll or anything from there I will cite it and add it. Cvrr (talk) 11:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- No specific number of seats. Even if we had it should not be based on 175. Criteria should be based on total no of seats in the assembly not seats contested by the party. Also I gave you the example, India Today Group, Times Group, India TV, ABP, Zee Media, News 18 network, The Indian Express, any reputed foreign agencies like NY Times, Washington, BBC, CNN etc. ShaanSenguptaTalk 12:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry to say this, but considering only national(often, mainly concentrated around northern part of India)/international media like India Today Group, Times Group, India TV, ABP, Zee Media, News 18 network, The Indian Express, any reputed foreign agencies like NY Times, Washington, BBC, CNN etc. for an article which is concerned about politics of regional, Telugu, AP state doesn't seem appropriate at all. It makes the info available for Telugu people to be at the mercy of these media houses which are not based out of Telugu states and hence can only offer an outsider perspective to things rather than a comprehensive inside cum outside perspective. Also many of these 'independent' 'reliable' sources are accused on being biased. What to do in this case then? Who has established the legitimacy of these sources? I want to contend this criteria. How can I do that? Cvrr (talk) 12:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Legitimacy of a source is a totally different debate. It is not related to the content on this article. So I won't do that debate here. The most I can offer is that you can read Wikipedia:Reliable sources for more information. And its not like only National media is considered reliable, regional media houses like Loksatta of Maharashtra is also considered reliable. There are some more examples of this. If you have any more questions related to content of this article, we can discuss. Otherwise I am done here. ShaanSenguptaTalk 13:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sure. The only question I have and the one you did not answer is about JSP winning 1 seat in 2019 and gaining around 6% vote share. If you can give a proper answer to why it still doesn't deserve a place in the info box I'll take that and leave the discussion. Cvrr (talk) 14:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- It has been answered already. I will do it again.
Only those parties that are covered by Reliable Media as a major contender for winning that election are listed in the infobox.
Hope you get it. Seats and vote share doesn't matter. Even for a second if it does, a party with 1 seat and 6% vote share in last election can in no way be considered as able to winning election. We maybe can add if the party has atleast 10-15 seats and 10% vote share so that it can atleast play a kingmaker in a hung assembly. ShaanSenguptaTalk 15:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)- @Shaan Sengupta Okay, I guess this article (https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/opinion/to-win-2024-andhra-pradesh-elections-chandrababu-naidu-is-busy-friending-those-he-spurned-in-2019-10521211.html) is enough to talk about "The Pawan Kalyan factor" and its significance in the alliance between TDP & JSP forming the govt in 2024. If this is enough please do revert the infobox changes you've done. If not let me know I'll try and dig up anything else.
- Main excerpt which asserts it:
- "Naidu needs Kalyan’s support for this 6 percent voteshare that could make a difference in bridging the gap with Jagan in his now-or-never poll battle in 2024," Cvrr (talk) 17:15, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cvrr this article mainly focuses on TDP and CBN. It shows the chances of it with possible allies. It doesn't show that JSP is a major contender. Rather it shows that JSP with its 6% small vote share can help in adding something to TDP CBN kitty. Again showing only YSRCP & TDP as major contenders. ShaanSenguptaTalk 17:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, but I cited this article as it is fitting your requirement above saying "can atleast play a kingmaker". Cvrr (talk) 18:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cvrr When you quote you need to quote the complete sentence.
We maybe can add if the party has atleast 10-15 seats and 10% vote share so that it can atleast play a kingmaker in a hung assembly.
You just took the last part ignoring the first. Also 6% vote and 1 seat is not major. Anways I believe you are going to change the infobox so this discussion can stop now. ShaanSenguptaTalk 02:24, 22 January 2024 (UTC)- Just explaining my rationale in quoting half the sentence (to anyone reading after the above reply) - I am fully aware that JSP doesn't have 10-15 seats or 10% vote share, but that doesn't take away the fact that it will be the deciding factor and kingmaker even according to the article I shared. Hence, although it exactly doesn't fit the criteria of seats or vote percentage set by Shaan, it is a Kingmaker and hence deserves a place in the info box is my argument. Cvrr (talk) 04:16, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cvrr When you quote you need to quote the complete sentence.
- Yeah, but I cited this article as it is fitting your requirement above saying "can atleast play a kingmaker". Cvrr (talk) 18:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cvrr this article mainly focuses on TDP and CBN. It shows the chances of it with possible allies. It doesn't show that JSP is a major contender. Rather it shows that JSP with its 6% small vote share can help in adding something to TDP CBN kitty. Again showing only YSRCP & TDP as major contenders. ShaanSenguptaTalk 17:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- It has been answered already. I will do it again.
- Hey @Shaan Sengupta, another question here. Can the 'reliable' 'independent' source be in Telugu or can it be a youtube video for any such source? Or should it only be an online article (text-based)? Cvrr (talk) 13:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Any language is accepted provided it can be translated using google easily. Also only videos are not accepted. A written report is considered primarily. A video to support that can be accepted. For example majority of the things are in report and one or two thing is missing so video can be taken as secondary source but article is needed as a primary source. ShaanSenguptaTalk 16:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sure. The only question I have and the one you did not answer is about JSP winning 1 seat in 2019 and gaining around 6% vote share. If you can give a proper answer to why it still doesn't deserve a place in the info box I'll take that and leave the discussion. Cvrr (talk) 14:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Legitimacy of a source is a totally different debate. It is not related to the content on this article. So I won't do that debate here. The most I can offer is that you can read Wikipedia:Reliable sources for more information. And its not like only National media is considered reliable, regional media houses like Loksatta of Maharashtra is also considered reliable. There are some more examples of this. If you have any more questions related to content of this article, we can discuss. Otherwise I am done here. ShaanSenguptaTalk 13:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry to say this, but considering only national(often, mainly concentrated around northern part of India)/international media like India Today Group, Times Group, India TV, ABP, Zee Media, News 18 network, The Indian Express, any reputed foreign agencies like NY Times, Washington, BBC, CNN etc. for an article which is concerned about politics of regional, Telugu, AP state doesn't seem appropriate at all. It makes the info available for Telugu people to be at the mercy of these media houses which are not based out of Telugu states and hence can only offer an outsider perspective to things rather than a comprehensive inside cum outside perspective. Also many of these 'independent' 'reliable' sources are accused on being biased. What to do in this case then? Who has established the legitimacy of these sources? I want to contend this criteria. How can I do that? Cvrr (talk) 12:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- No specific number of seats. Even if we had it should not be based on 175. Criteria should be based on total no of seats in the assembly not seats contested by the party. Also I gave you the example, India Today Group, Times Group, India TV, ABP, Zee Media, News 18 network, The Indian Express, any reputed foreign agencies like NY Times, Washington, BBC, CNN etc. ShaanSenguptaTalk 12:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I will take excerpts from your given sources only.
- The first two sources are not well established reliable sources in Wikipedia. The third one is on a statement by a leader of the alliance. Also just bcoz new agencies are talking about some party doesnt make it major. It is decided by independent analysis done by reliable sources. As for the two mentioned one is having its govt and one had just before this. So no source is needed for them. ShaanSenguptaTalk 11:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Why is the 'File:CPIM election symbol.png' used for both CPI and CPIM as party symbols?
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If i'm not wrong two parties cannot use same party symbol for elections. Sohan 2002 (talk) 05:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Sohan 2002, Thank you for bringing this to the notice here. I have now rectified the same. Happy editing. 456legendtalk 06:35, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Congress candidates list
editCongress has declared its 175 candidates from all of the constituencies so that should be included in the candidates table WikiEdits2003 (talk) 01:49, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes but Congress is not a major contender in the assembly elections this time, it doesn't seem to be so far. Maybe if it really fares well in the election we can add it. But otherwise it's not really predominant. Only YSS is influential and making the Plutonimus (talk) 09:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- we can refer to 2019 Andhra Pradesh Legislative Assembly election page for the same constituencies data which is maintained in district wise order from top to bottom geographically. Venkatsfv (talk) 08:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Pendurthi Assembly constituency not in Anakapalli District
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In the category table of candidates in this article, Pendurthi Legislative Assembly Constituency is noted in Anakapalli District. But VOTERS' SERVICE PORTAL in this link shows the constituency of Visakhapatnam district. can see what is right. యర్రా రామారావు (talk) 04:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @యర్రా రామారావు You are correct! The inconsistency arises because the Pendurthi constituency is partly in the Visakhapatnam district and partly in the Anakapalli district. The same situation applies to the Panyam constituency, which is partly in the Kurnool district and partly in the Nandyal district. This information needs to be reflected in accordance with the ECI portal, and I take the responsibility to correct the same on the article. Thank you 456legendtalk 03:51, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- @456legend garu thanks fo your the quick response యర్రా రామారావు (talk) 04:00, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
UPE warning
editJust came across this on Twitter. To all those watching this page, keep an eye on new wikilinks being added to non-notable TDP candidate names, in case UPEs start creating pages for them. Consensus says that candidates for election do not, per se, meet notability unless they actually win. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 14:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Assembly constituency numbers should be changed
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49.37.156.90 (talk) 14:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
punganur assembly constituency(chittoor district) number should be changed from 169 to 165.
chandragiri assembly constituency number should be changed from 165 to 166.
tirupati assembly constituency number should be changed from 166 to 167.
srikalahasti assembly constituency number should be changed from 167 to 168.
satyavedu assembly constituency number should be changed from 168 to 169.
And changes should be reflected in NDA seat share map image of assembly constituencies.
IN NDA seat share map 166(chandragiri) should be changed from red(jana sena party) to yellow(telugu desam party)
And 167(tirupati) should be changed from yellow(telugu desam party) to red(jana sena party).
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Reddy Santhosh M (talk • contribs) 15:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Partly done: I have made the necessary changes in the 'Candidates' section. Requesting @456legend to correct the color shading in NDA seat share map. Dhruv edits (talk) 15:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Update candidates please
- https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2024/Apr/22/tdp-changes-candidates-for-five-assembly-segments Reddy Santhosh M (talk) 06:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Reddy Santhosh M the map is now updated. Thank you 456legendtalk 10:35, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- @456legend Could you also make one for INC+ alliance? Dhruv edits (talk) 13:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Dhruv edits, will try doing it tomorrow. 456legendtalk 16:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done I have completed making one and published it on the article. Sorry for the delay. 456legendtalk 15:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- @456legend Could you also make one for INC+ alliance? Dhruv edits (talk) 13:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Reddy Santhosh M the map is now updated. Thank you 456legendtalk 10:35, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2024
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CHange the number of declared Congress seats to 152 Skibidi Toilet sigma63 (talk) 16:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have a reliable source to support that? OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Ferien (talk) 20:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Opinion Polls
editI have re-added opinion polls deleted by Kishoreedits. Please let me know if there is any reason for the deletion/ any objection. I will be happy to discuss Plutonimus (talk) 08:57, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Plutonimus Only opinion polls with error margin and sample size are added to articles. Please see MOS:INDELECT. Dhruv edits (talk) 16:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
District wise Candidate list is divided in multiple groups in disorder.
editDistrict wise Candidate list is divided in multiple groups in disorder instead of one group for each district. 103.105.103.245 (talk) 01:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- The inconsistencies arise because not all the consistencies in the Andhra Pradesh Legislative Assembly are in serial order. 456legendtalk 03:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Y S R Congress Party Flag Symbol
edithttps://www.ysrcongress.com/prajavasankalpa-yatra/day-330-ys-jagan-padayatra-38780
Refer to this page for the flag symbol India617 (talk) 11:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2024
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103.121.151.202 (talk) 17:58, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
|rowspan="4" style="background-color:#F98C1F; color:inherit; width:0.3em;" | !rowspan="4"style="background:#fef3e8"|NDA |style="background-color:#FFED00; color:inherit; width:0.3em;" | |Telugu Desam Party | | | | 144 | 135 |112
|style="background-color:#1569C7; color:inherit; width:0.3em;" | |colspan="3"|YSR Congress Party | | | |175 |11 |140
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|Giddalur
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- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:18, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Change in won numbers
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Boyina Naga Navadweep Sai (talk) 18:08, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Giddalur was won by some others not by YSRCP Janasena i.e., JSP was won in 21 seats YSRCP Was won in 11 seats
Wikipedia please change this or please give me permission to edit
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 21:47, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Wrong name in giddaluru MLA candidate win
editWrong candidate name and party also .....TDP has won but wrongly mentioned as YSRCP candidate 2409:40F0:3008:AEB7:C484:9AFF:FE9E:C66C (talk) 19:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2024
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I have to time to update Andhra Pradesh election results with the candidates and majorities they have acquired. I am using the official Indian Election commision page for the data : https://results.eci.gov.in/ Hemanthng12 (talk) 03:35, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 12:56, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
167 (Tirupati) is JSP. It should be coloured in Red.
editEdit the results graphic to show this 206.168.23.142 (talk) 04:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @FlyJet777, can you please look into this and update the result map accordingly? Thank you 456legendtalk 18:29, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
AC 29 Results
editIn constitutional wise result AC no 29 r candidate results was wrongly updated except margin value rending values were wrongly updated. Please check and update. Thanks Venki143b (talk) 17:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Venki143b, thank you for bringing this into notice. It is now updated accordingly as per the ECI official website. 456legendtalk 18:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC)