Talk:48th Hong Kong International Film Festival
Latest comment: 17 days ago by AirshipJungleman29 in topic Did you know nomination
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 | A fact from 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 October 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 00:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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- ... that the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival canceled the screening of a politically themed film due to the "inability to locate suitable copies", despite the film being showcased 3 years ago?
- ALT1: ... that Karena Lam was named the ambassador of the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival, making her only the second woman to hold this position? Source: [3]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/M503
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Created by Prince of Erebor (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.
Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
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- Comment: @Prince of Erebor: I like what you are trying to accomplish here. Two things stand out right away: 1) I think you can easily shorten ALT0, which is very interesting to me, and 2) The basic outline of ALT0 appears in the first paragraph of the "Pan-Chinese Cinema > Filmmaker in Focus" section, but it is far from explicit and barely matches the proposed hook. While I certainly encourage paraphrasing and rewriting as you have done, there does need to be a minimum baseline of text-source integrity that is obvious to the casual reader. I think we can make immediate progress on this nom if you consider shortening ALT0 and making it match the article. 199 characters for what you are trying to say is excessive to me. Viriditas (talk) 22:31, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Viriditas. What about ALT2: "... that the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival removed a politically themed film from its lineup due to being unable to locate suitable copies, despite having screened in 2021? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 08:16, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- This is a hard one for me because the source isn't easily accessible. Is there any way you can work in the bit about the HK film archive from the article and keep it short? Viriditas (talk) 21:46, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
The 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival is the 2024 edition of the Hong Kong International Film Festival
- I'm not convinced we need this kind of duplication or redundancy in the lead. The way we usually do it in articles about film festivals is title followed by date. Example: "The 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival took place from 28 March to 8 April 2024". Or for another example: "The 96th Academy Awards ceremony, presented by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), took place on March 10, 2024, at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood, Los Angeles." Viriditas (talk) 20:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
A new section, the CAA China Genre Initiative Projects
- Not everyone is going to know that CAA means Creative Artists Agency, so consider linking CAA. Viriditas (talk) 21:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Good point!
Done —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 21:28, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Good point!
Overview
- Keep in mind, we aren't supposed to use "overview" sections, as the lead is supposed to be an overview. Consider changing the name to "background", "history", or something similar. Viriditas (talk) 21:35, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your thorough review, Viriditas. I actually referenced 29th Busan International Film Festival and 37th Tokyo International Film Festival while writing this article, and both used "Overview" as the section heading. I am not sure if it is a locally consented heading, but I will change it to "Background" for now. Regarding the hooks, is ALT2 still unsatisfactory? I am unsure how to trim it further while still conveying the irony of HKIFF's decision. (I think it would complicate things further to mention the Hong Kong Film Archive, as the source only states that all copies of Hong Kong films are preserved there but does not specify whether The Longest Summer is included. The hook would be based on an assumption.) Perhaps we should consider ALT1 instead? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 21:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think ALT0/ALT2 is still salvageable; ALT1 will lose you site visits due to the second position of the link. Viriditas (talk) 22:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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ALT0 is my first choice. Yes, it is very long, but attempts to shorten it and preserve the context have been unsuccessful. I don’t find ALT1 all that interesting, but it’s an ironic reversal of the "first" hook cliche. Everything else checks out. Page was long enough when it was nominated. Earwig shows no issues. Hook is cited and interesting. Good to go. Viriditas (talk) 21:38, 17 October 2024 (UTC)