Talk:A. Leon Higginbotham Jr.

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Latest comment: 5 years ago by Alarob in topic Lowering the voting age
Good articleA. Leon Higginbotham Jr. has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 12, 2007Good article nomineeListed
September 15, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
October 15, 2007Good article reassessmentKept
Current status: Good article

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The first name of this article is misspelled. Other sources reference "Aloysius" (note transposed 's' and 'i'). Unless someone has evidence that this is the correct spelling, this article should be moved.

http://www.fjc.gov/servlet/tGetInfo?jid=1039. The federal judicial center spells it the way the article is written.JCO312 00:33, 8 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

GA nomination on hold

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Very well put together, but I have a few suggestions that should be fixed before I will pass it as a GA:

  • Fix redirects or link repair for (in order throughout the article): Article III, Chief Judge, Third Circuit Court of Appeals, Ewing, segregated, B.A., University of Texas, LL.B., Philadelphia Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania Superior Court, Attorney General, Robert Kennedy, Senate Judiciary Committee, Lyndon Johnson, Martin Luther King, assassinated, Clifford Alexander, North Philadelphia, District of Columbia, strict constructionist, The Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, & strokes.
  • Add wikilinks or explain what these words are: academic track, Latin, & segregationist
  • Junior High School does not need to be capitalized unless that is the actual name of the school. It is also capitalized again a few sentences later, again, fix if necessary.
  • Remove the extra citation after this sentence: "Higginbotham's mother convinced the principal at the Junior High School to enroll him in a second-year Latin course, even though he had never studied first year Latin."
  • Add a space after the comma before Corretta Scott in the sentence "On the day that Higginbotham entered Antioch, one other black student was also admitted,Coretta Scott, who would..."
  • Reword this sentence, perhaps splitting it into two: "Higginbotham advanced to the finals of the first year moot court competition, where he argued in front of a panel that included Justice Clark of the Supreme Court of the United States, and John W. Davis who would later argue against Thurgood Marshall, and on behalf of the Topeka, Kansas Board of Education in Brown v. Board of Education."
  • Move inline citations directly after period (I counted three that need to be fixed)
  • "Higginbotham ultimately became a strong support of President Kennedy, and began attending functions on behalf of the administration," - change to "strong supporter" and put a period at the end to replace the comma.
  • The assassination of Robert F. Kennedy is linked to, but John F. Kennedy's isn't, perhaps you can do so here "following the death of President Kennedy"
  • Fix the references, so they don't just say the link, but perhaps the author of the page, article title, etc. (look to WP:Cite or other GA/FAs for examples).

Once all of these are fixed, I will pass this article as a GA. You will have seven days to complete these, and please let me know when you complete them or if you have any questions on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 08:06, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

GA passed

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Good job on fixing the above suggestions so fast. I have passed this article as a Good Article according to the GA criteria. Make sure to continue to make sure all new and relevant information is properly sourced. From here, I'd recommend taking this to peer review and on to FAC if you desire. Keep up the good work and happy editing! --Nehrams2020 03:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Any reason why the part about Higginbotham becoming a trustee of Yale was removed?

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Morris 02:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

It was inadvertent. The article was in pretty poor shape when I first saw it, so I basically re-wrote it. I don't know why I didn't put it back in. I will collect my research materials and add it back in, unless you'd like to go ahead and put it in now (I try and make sure that I source everything I add, and I know I have a source for it around here somewhere). Cheers, JCO312 03:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I just noticed that you started the page, and wanted to make clear that my comment that the article was in pretty poor shape was not directed at your work, but at passages like
"Incredibly important "Open Letter To Clarence Thomas" upon his appointment to the Supreme Court" the judge wrote a beautiful and moving letter, an open letter in the University of Pennsylvania Law Review to Thomas that begs his study of American history and the court. It is a compelling and important, and to me unadvertised plea, for wisdom on the court... and for his admission that many blacks before him, individuals, government enterprises and groups had petitioned and suffered for these priveleges afforded Clarence Thomas which Thomas significantly discounted and even dismissed."
JCO312 03:17, 6 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
No problem. It's funny, I noticed that the article was missing, and wrote a very short biography, and a few months later other people have expanded the article greatly. Feel free to add that back in (I think that my source was a newspaper obituary). We should probably mention at the top that "Leon" was the name he actually used. Cheers, Morris 17:51, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I will add both those facts once I get my hands on the reference. I know I have the Yale alumni thing around somewhere, I'm not entirely sure how to source the fact that he went by Leon. JCO312 17:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

GA Sweeps (kept)

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This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Ruslik 06:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Aloyisus [sic]

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This misspelling of Aloysius is correct? 99.238.167.214 (talk) 07:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

It's taken from the entry on the Federal Judicial Center on Judge Higginbotham [1] JCO312 (talk) 14:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. 99.238.167.214 (talk) 08:42, 2 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Assessment comment

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It's actually a very well-written article. I'd either ask for a peer review or submit to it WP:GAC to see if it's a good article. I like what I see so far though, plus it's loaded with references.--Wizardman 05:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

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Lowering the voting age

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This article previously included the sentence: "During a conference of Ohio State collegiate NAACP chapters, Higginbotham successfully advocated for legislation to lower the voting age to 18." The citation was to "In Memoriam, Nathaniel R. Jones, 112 Harvard Law Review 1801, 1818." Someone left a comment asking "which voting age? NAACP? US wasn't until decades later"

I looked at the source, and this sentence has some errors. Judge Jones states that he met Higginbotham when they were both at the Ohio college NAACP conference "a half century ago." (The article was published in June 1999, so this conference was in approximately 1949.) In the next paragraph, Judge Jones says Higginbotham "seized the opportunity at that time to endeavor to persuade the Governor of the State of Ohio to change his stance and support legislation that would lower the voting age to 18 years. He succeeded." It is not clear that the persuasion regarding the voting age had anything to do with the NAACP conference other than that both occurred around that time (i.e., in college). Additionally, the Jones article does not say the legislation ultimately succeeded, but only that Higginbotham convinced the governor to support it. I suspect this omission was intentional, since it appears Ohio's voting age was still 21 even in 1969 (when voters rejected an amendment to lower the age to 19). (Ballotpedia - Ohio Voting Age, Amendment 1 (1969))

As a result, I changed the text to read "While in college, Higginbotham successfully convinced the Governor of Ohio to support legislation to lower the voting age to 18." I did not add anything about the eventual fate of that legislation, because I could not find a source to support anything else -- the Ballotpedia link, for instance, only says what the voting age was in 1969, but it says nothing about what happened in 1949 (or around then). I doubt the age was lowered to 18 and then raised back to 21, but I don't have any citation to prove it. I'd welcome anyone who wants to look into this further, however. --EightYearBreak (talk) 15:29, 1 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, EightYearBreak, for going into detail about what that source contains. I was skeptical of the wording of that sentence, but your description convinced me that it is fine. I support leaving it as-is in the absence of more info. — ob C. alias ALAROB 04:11, 13 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, EightYearBreak, for going into detail about what that source contains. I was skeptical of the wording of that sentence, but your description convinced me that it is fine. I support leaving it as-is in the absence of more info. — ob C. alias ALAROB 04:11, 13 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
(Apologies for the duplicate post. I’m using a mobile device and a glitch in the browser interface gave me an incorrect warning that the post would be lost unless I selected “Publish” again. I’ll come back and delete the duplicate and this.) — ob C. alias ALAROB 04:14, 13 August 2019 (UTC)Reply