Talk:A Stormy Night

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The result was: promoted by Schwede66 talk 22:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

 
Caragiale in 1879
  • ... that the first theatrical run of Ion Luca Caragiale's (pictured) A Stormy Night, which features a journalist nearly beaten up by the Civic Guard, saw Caragiale nearly beaten up by the Civic Guard? Source: The stuff about the journalist (Rică Venturiano) is from multiple sources, and is a central element of the play; it is mentioned in the synopsis of the article, but, if need be, can also be picked up from the references used in the section titled "Rică". Multiple sources also on the Caragiale's near-beating, with a condensed one being N. Vătămanu, "45 de ani de la moartea lui I. L. Caragiale. Jupîn Dumitrache", in Gazeta Literară, Vol. IV, Issue 25, June 1957, p. 5: "Caragiale însuşi scria in introducerea la Notiţe critice: 'La a doua reprezentaţie am fost fluierat, huiduit şi ameninţat, de o droaie de patrioţi din garda civică, cu bătaie în piaţa teatrului. Nişte tineri ofiţeri m-au scăpat de furia poporului'. S-ar părea că garda naţională ridiculizată in comedie a reacţionat energic provocind scandalul." ("Caragiale himself wrote in his introduction to Critical Notes: 'On the second staging [of A Stormy Nigh] there was a crowd of patriots from the civic guard, whistling, heckling and threatening me with a beating out in the theater square. Some young officers stepped in to save me from the fury of the people'. It would seem that the national guard, which was strongly ridiculed in that comedy had reacted strongly, provoking a scandal.") Vătămanu goes on to name a few participants in the brouhaha; note that he uses the name "national guard" for what was commonly known as the Civil Guard, or City Guard.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Convent of Saint Lazarus
    • Comment: Special occasion holding request: Would be great if this were featured on January 18 (which was is the 145th anniversary of the premiere, in Old Style), or January 30 (the same in New Style, and also Caragiale's anniversary, in Old Style).

Created by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 14:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/A Stormy Night; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply

  • Just a comment, but both requested dates (January 18 and January 30) are beyond the six-week limit for special occasion requests, calculating from the nomination date of December 5. As such, if there is a desire for either date to be used, an IAR exemption request needs to be raised at WT:DYK, otherwise the hook can only run as a regular hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Well that sucks. Dahn (talk) 08:45, 22 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
  •   Full review needed. At this point, it's been so long since nomination that either date can safely be requested; indeed, at this point, it would need to be a near-immediate review and promotion to appear as soon as the requested January 18! BlueMoonset (talk) 22:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:  

  Superb article Dahn. Offline sources approved in good faith. At 12,000 words, it is somewhere in the boundary zone of WP:TOOBIG, but that is forgivable for DYK. Image does not have a US PD tag and so cannot currently run; if it was first published in 1959 I doubt it will. I changed the "Civil Guard" of the original hook to "Civic Guard" to match the article. If it has not been promoted to Template:Did you know/Preparation area 1 for the January 30 run in the next few days, either ping me or make a request at WT:DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
@AirshipJungleman29: Many, many thanks. The image should be PD, since, even if first published in 1959 (which is unlikely), it would have only had 5 years of copyright after that date, and therefore it was PD long before 1996. I've added the missing tags to clarify that. Dahn (talk) 23:04, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Excellent. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 07:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply