Talk:Abby Stein

Latest comment: 9 months ago by Krɪt̮ɪkl feɪjəɹ in topic Height?


Rabbinical Degree

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The article says she completed her rabbinical degree, but I think they must mean completed studies.Sir Joseph (talk) 19:30, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Undid senseless Vandalism

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A user using an anonymous IP address edited several things between March 26-27, all if them pure vandalism (such as replacing Columbia University with 'fluffy kitten'). I undid all of them, but this is not the first this page was vandalized. Should we consider closing edits to non registered users? 158.222.158.195 (talk) 20:12, 28 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Real name

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This article has his feminine name, but why doesn't it state his real name? This is necessary basic information an encyclopedia article should have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.193.255.58 (talk) 13:33, 2 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Her real name is Abby Stein. I think you're referring to the name she was born with. The relevant guideline on when and how to include a person's birth name is here, and the policy on treating living people is here. Since Stein wasn't notable under her birth name, and it's not widely covered by reliable sources, then the policy on living persons dictates that we respect her privacy and not report it. -- irn (talk) 15:15, 2 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
Here is an article that fills in a lot of the background - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3330583/Hasidic-groom-Yisroel-Stein-wed-traditional-ceremony-wearing-black-robe-shtreimel-hat-Four-years-later-called-Abby-wears-make-figure-hugging-dresses.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.116.198 (talk) 13:10, 15 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Descent from the Baal Shem Tov? WP:RS please.

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RE: Deletions of alleged descent from the Baal Shem Tov. See centralized discussion at Talk:Timeline of LGBT Jewish history#Descended from Baal Shem Tov? Proof please!. IZAK (talk) 19:33, 7 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

I returned it. With additional "proof" from geni.com, writing out the exact lineage from Stein to the Baal Shem Tov. In addition, the source referenced as note 3, a primary source from a book of Stein's grandfather, PUBLISHED BY HER FATHER, hence a solid primary source connection to her. Also, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, JTA, as well as several other reliable news sources that make the claim, are more than enough for proof, as opposed to the above writers, "feeling" that it might be made up.
Also, Stein constantly talks about it publicly including on TV and in interviews, making it an important detail about her life. IZAK's desire to remove it sounds more like a persoanl discomfort with the fact that Stein's is a descendent of the Baal Shem Tov, rather than an encyclopedic one. Also added two more sources for it in addition to the JTA one, just for extra 'proof'. After that, I am not sure how much more 'proof' one can ask for.Ovrim (talk) 08:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
It seems to be mentioned in enough RS to meet WP:V and merit mention here. Iff there are other RS casting doubt on the statement, that could be mentioned as well, or the statement could be qualified like "claims descent from" rather than "is descended from", but otherwise, Wikipedia goes by what reliable sources say... -sche (talk) 04:21, 10 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
WP:BOLDly removed as WP:NOTGENEALOGY: Family histories should be presented only where appropriate to support the reader's understanding of a notable topic and in this case the info was just plopped into "Personal life" with no explanation of how this is relevant to understanding the individual. It delivers nothing to support the reader's understanding of this notable activist.
FWIW, geni.com is solidly WP:RSP and should be ignored. Toddst1 (talk) 13:42, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Height?

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Why does this page list her height? Is that a normal thing to do? Is it really nessary to list the height of a transgender woman? Transgender people can be sensitive about their height. Most articles about people don’t feature height, so I think this particular instance feels arbitrary. I don’t know Wikipedia’s standard conventions on listing physical characteristics, so if this is regular I’d like to know. Krɪt̮ɪkl feɪjəɹ (talk) 21:45, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply