Talk:Abhogi

External Links

I am not breaking any of the following guidelines for external links. I genuinely believe that the external links I added are of great value to the articles. When someone is learning about a raaga, there is nothing better than listening to music in that raaga. It's like describing a guitar and playing an audio of the instrument to show how the instrument sounds. I disagree that these links are inappropriate and request they be added back. Thank you.

"Wikipedia articles may include links to web pages outside Wikipedia (external links), but they should not normally be used in the body of an article. All external links must conform to certain formatting restrictions. Some acceptable links include those that contain further research that is accurate and on-topic, information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail, or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to its accuracy." Sbssmadhav (talk) 19:21, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

I believe the spirit behind the guidelines for usage of External links has to be understood. Also, the exact expectations from the people at large, from any encyclopedia has to be understood. Here are some points to help people understand why external links of this nature are not appropriate.

( A ) Point 4 of Important points to remember from WP:EL states

In the "External links" section, try to avoid separate links to multiple pages in the same website; instead, try to find an appropriate linking page within the site.

As can be seen by additions you have made, this is clearly violated.

( B ) Point 9 of Links normally to be avoided from WP:EL states

Any search results pages, such as links to individual website searches, search engines, search aggregators, or RSS feeds.

As can be seen by additions you have made, each and every link is a "Search Results" page.

( C ) Point 10 of Links normally to be avoided from WP:EL states

Social networking sites (such as Myspace and Facebook), chat or discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups), Twitter feeds, Usenet newsgroups or e-mail lists.

As can be seen, your website states clearly The Music Student Network.

( D ) Advertising and conflicts of interest from WP:EL states

It is obvious that a link from Wikipedia to an external site may drive Web traffic to that site. But in line with Wikipedia policies, you should avoid linking to a site that you own, maintain, or represent—even if Wikipedia guidelines seem to imply that it may otherwise be linked.

As it is your website, there is direct conflict of interest.

( E ) Finally point number 1 of Links normally to be avoided from WP:EL states

Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a featured article.

Since there are 1000s (if not millions) of renditions of ragas and alapanas available on the web, NO SINGLE resource can claim to be UNIQUE to be included in a particular raga page. Here, it should be understood that unique resource means extra ordinary resource that is reliable and referenced by a 3rd party review/ article/ published paper, etc. This default expectation of encyclopedic content cannot be bypassed simply because it has not been mentioned in the WP:EL - it is implicit requirement that experts and 3rd parties feel that raagabox is THE standard for learning the raga - which clearly it is NOT. No one has certified this.

Hope in light of this you will stop promoting your website in Wikipedia articles. Thank you. VasuVR (talk, contribs) 07:49, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

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• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070514235610/http://www.itcsra.org/sra_others_samay_index.html to http://www.itcsra.org/sra_others_samay_index.html
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070514234610/http://www.itcsra.org/sra_raga/sra_raga_that/sra_raga_that_index.html to http://www.itcsra.org/sra_raga/sra_raga_that/sra_raga_that_index.html
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