Talk:Abnormal psychology

Very vague

This page is very general. All of the sections could be expanded with more information. This is an article filled with information :) | abnormal psychology Jlucas1 (talk) 05:55, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Michael Fenichel advertising his web page

Well, since there is nothing here, I'd be happy to offer up a resource page full of information on both "normal" and "abnormal psychology", called fittingly enough, Current Topics in Psychology: http://www.psychservices.com/Current.shtml

You'll find many resources for parents, students, teachers, mental health professionals, and others interested in learning about a wide range of psychological functioning from Autism to Williams Syndrome. A public service from clinical psychologist Dr. Michael Fenichel.

Scientific

Since just pretend to be scientific is not enough to be scientific, I will remove the scientific word on the first sentence. -- AnyFile 20:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The study of abnormal psychology employs the scientific method so I am going to add back the "scientific" adjective you removed. -- Diletante 19:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Positivism is a popular approach but certainly not the only one. Abnormal psychology also employs interpretive methods, and has done so for well over a century. So, just as I did with psychology, I've added "analytic" (i.e., "analytic and scientific") with a wikilink to "psychoanalysis." Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

For further explanation, see Talk:Major_depressive_disorder#"Historical_significance_of_psychoanalysis". Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Against some of my own inclinations, I've gone ahead and harmonized the introduction with that of Psychology, to state, "Abnormal psychology is an academic and applied discipline involving the scientific study of abnormal thoughts and behavior"--the operative word being involving. Psychology is about more than science, but it certainly involves it, and (for better or for worse) it involves it to an extent that it has become prominent in mainstream definitions of the field. Cosmic Latte (talk) 00:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Poll

Just kinda a small poll: how many people here actually believe that mental "disorders" are real? How many people believe this is just the governments way to control us?--PoidLover 09:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I suggest reading this [1]. It's not a matter of government, but of society. Ronabop 05:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll have to check that out. Here's another one to add to your reading lists, if it's not already on there. Cosmic Latte (talk) 08:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Psychological disorders are real. Denying mental illness is simply wrong. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I have schizoaffective disorder and struggle with it daily. For someone to tell me that it isn't real is simply a way of denying the fact that other people aren't as well off as you. Everyone thinks they have it harder than everyone else. Most people are wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.96.56.14 (talk) 13:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I think this is irrelevant to the article and should be discussed somewhere else. It doesn't help the article improve in anyway. Scotlynnblair (talk) 00:01, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

What is the description of phobias doing here?

It's out of place and belongs on the phobias page. There are no descriptions of other mental disorders here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.253.26.148 (talk) 20:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

There are many flaws in this article. Lots of work is needed. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

History of abnormal psychology

This article says almost nothing about the history of abnormal psychology. It says nothing about the supernatural, biological, and psychological traditions. The History section starts with "The history of abnormal psychology began with Plato in the fourth century B.C.". I couldn't find any reliable source that supports this statement. I'm about to make a major change. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 17:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I noticed the newest update to this section mentions draining of "the four humors". Perhaps explain what these humors are (or more precisely, were thought to be)? I know I'm just being difficult, but humor me. AdamChirnside (talk) 23:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Suggestions for improvement

Any ideas? I'll start off with a few:

• Summarize some specific psychological disorders, adding "main article" tags to direct people to the relevant pages.
• Expand the history section. See History of mental disorders and Major depressive disorder#History for some content and comparison.
• Expand the Etiology section from a bulleted list into regular prose. Cosmic Latte (talk) 08:36, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

How about condensing that tripartite (bad joke) references section? Do we need Notes, References and a Bibliography with one book? 207.162.58.3 (talk) 12:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

How about some mention of the notion that a person can be "abnormal" but still fully functional. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.9.45.237 (talk) 16:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Psychopathology

Is this the same as Psychopathology?

Fred-J 22:12, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

The term 'abnormal' refers to any departure from the norm ...

... is a tautology. FiachraByrne (talk) 02:35, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Edited. — Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 10:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

DSM

Hello, I am a Clemson student currently working on a senior lab in which we are modifying Wikipeida Articles to help raise them to good or featured status. I am interested in editing this article due to its vagueness. I am currently taking an abnormal psychology class and feel that I could expand upon many of the sections particularly the one on the DSM as I feel it is very unclear.I would also like to elaborate more on the history section as I feel it is a bit short. --Pwatson5291 (talk) 15:06, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Welcome! Please remember that Wikipedia is not an academic paper or essay! Wikipedia articles should not be based on WP:primary sources, but on reliable, published secondary sources (for instance, journal reviews and professional or advanced academic textbooks) and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources (such as undergraduate textbooks). WP:MEDRS describes how to identify reliable sources for medical information, which is a good guideline for many psychology articles as well. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 16:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I added info in the history, and DSM section of the page as part of my class assignment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwatson5291 (talk I also added additional information on the forms of therapy as well for my educational assignment. • contribs) 02:36, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Patrick! A couple of comments.

• You caused quite some puzzlement by copypasting part of this article's text into this article, so it was doubled. It was the text starting with "Throughout time, societies have proposed several... " If you would have read the whole article, you would have noticed it yourself.
• Also, you wrote a text, pasted this text into the section History, and left it to others (me) to get the text integrated into the text that was already there. Not nice.

• In the section History, you write quite big chunks of text without stating the source. If the same source is used for a larger piece of text, it's good to several times state this source, so no questions can arise as to where certain text comes from. Also, you need to state page numbers of the books you used. In DSM you didn't state any source at all! Please fix this. Especially at places where there is a [citation needed]-tag.
• When it comes to the content of what you wrote, I don't think that what you wrote expresses a Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. From your text, it sounds like deinstitutionalization was all bad, but of course this is not the case. A neutral point of view would have stated approximately how many seem to have benefitted and how many seem to have suffered. And how. Also, even though we write in English, this Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for the whole world, not just for English speaking countries.
• Finally, thank you for your contributions! Lova Falk talk 09:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

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US Information on Deinstitutionalization

The deinstitutionalization section lacks information on deinstitutionalization in the United States while talking about England and Australia. I am suggesting the below information to give users a quick overview on the role of deinstitutionalization in the United States:

In 1963, President John Kennedy launched the community health movement in the United States as a "bold new approach" to mental health care, aimed at coordinating mental health services for citizens in mental health centers. In the span of 40 years, the United States was able to see an about 90 percent drop in the number of patients in Psychiatric hospitals. <ref name="(Ab)normal Psychology"></ref>

References

Nolen-Hoeksema, Susan (2013). Abnormal Psychology (6th ed.). Boston: McGraw-Hill. ISBN 0078035384.

Lissamg (talk) 04:50, 16 November 2014 (UTC)11/15/2014

Adding information about Asylums

I'm going to add meaningful information about asylums I have retrieved from a textbook. Any object? Specifically will add information about the first asylum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Eddy7748 (talk • contribs)

We already have an article on Bethlem Royal Hospital. Also you'll need to cite your sources. And also sign your messages on talk pages. :) — Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 19:12, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Ok, will add citation. Thank you for your tips so far! Eddy7748 (talk) 18:54, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

DSM 5

The DSM 5 got rid of the axis system. The page is referring to DSM IV...

Term Abnormal

What is normal, what is the contrary of that? - Well, it is a word, a term, a code of letters that was in history of human often used in context with fundamentalism. Like very typic in National Socialism or other system of dictatorship and violance. If somebody human is out there, somebody of central nervous system, not of Sympathetic nervous system, somebody with emotions, true feelings, with brain, with honesty, than we dont use this word of fundamenalism - normal or abnormal. - If you are for life and against atomic bombs n destroying, you and your friends can make a difference --77.56.118.154 (talk) 23:01, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

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From reading the article on Abnormal Psychology, I enjoyed the way the that the article was laid out. I believe that the article has good structure and organization and the timeline that the article was laid out was easy to follow along with and understand. The article used good vocabulary and I did not pass anything in the article that needed to be edited due to bad grammar. However as I began reading the article, I believe that article includes more information about the history of practice in Abnormal Psychology the history of institutions. The article I almost feel went off topic when talking about the history and not mentioning any evidence about actual history of Abnormal Psychology (more than just practice). When examining the rest of the article, the article went on to describe Abnormal Psychology, but did not bring up any examples of disorders that are included in Abnormal Psychology. If I were a clinical Psychologist reading the article, it would be an easy article to read through and understand what it is trying to communicate. However, for an everyday consumer, it may be a little more challenging to fully understand what Abnormal Psychology is because it is missing examples of disorders. This article is a good article and has potential to be even better. It just has a few holes that need to be filled.Tianna Ramos Garcia (talk) 05:28, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, I am new to this so please bare with me. This article was really well written and was neutral and didn't appear to have any biases. I don't think there was any plagiarism in the article, and for me the links worked. I also don't think that there was really anything missing that needed to be added, the article was pretty vast and covered a lot. --Phereinyx006 (talk) 03:08, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Not concise

I think the opening needs to more fully summarize the content of the article in order to understand where this is going better. I think specifically it would be interesting if the asylums were mentioned. However, this is my first time reviewing a Wikipedia article and so I apologize if maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chisparks (talk • contribs) 01:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

additional contributions

Hello, I will be adding additional forms of therapy, as well as brief summaries/descriptions of some of the more prevalent psychological disorders. Thank You.--RJSteed (talk) 06:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Perspectives on Abnormal Psychology

I noticed that the section about perspectives on abnormal psychology does not have any links or sources attached to it. If sources could be attached to it I feel like it would be a stronger section. Additionally, there are no images which could also help to further strengthen the article. JoshRumz (talk) 01:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

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