Talk:Adam-12

Sentence Wording

The following sentence doesn't make sense as it currently stands:

Malloy decides to resign from the department, when he is assigned a new partner: rookie Officer Jim Reed, fresh out of the police academy.

Without the comma, it means that when Reed is assigned, that pushes Malloy into quitting. With the comma, it's just plain ungrammatical.

It needs to either be:

Malloy decides to resign from the department when he is assigned a new partner: rookie Officer Jim Reed, fresh out of the police academy. (Someone talks him into giving Reed a chance, and...)

or

Malloy decides to resign from the department, but holds off on doing so when he is assigned a new partner: rookie Officer Jim Reed, fresh out of the police academy.

I haven't seen the ep in 30 years, so I don't know which way it went. But it needs to be less ambiguous. If Malloy actually quit, and nothing happened to get him into the car with Reed, then there's no show.

The way it happened....Malloy's partner is killed in the line of duty, he decides to quit. In the mean time, he assigned rookie Jim Reed. They ride together, police stuff happens and Malloy decides to stick with it. KLF 5/2008. All episodes on Netflix —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kksox (talk • contribs) 03:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I agree on the "Reed and Malloy" phrase. If you change this in the Nashville Beat part, be sure to reverse the actors' names, too. I did them in billing order. Karen 22:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Irrelevant, too-trivial trivia

The last paragraph of 'Cultural Impact' - beginning "Adam 12 is also a daytime dj" should be deleted. Cultural Impact describes things directly related to the show and police procedures and methodologies - the media feedback loop. This is just something that would be in a 'Trivia' or 'Cultural *References*' section, but isn't even interesting enough for that. I'm going ahead and deleting it. 74.227.120.238 22:45, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

-- Must be something wrong with my browser cache (only thing I can think of) - this had already been trimmed down on the 18th - but I still think it has no use at all. 74.227.120.238 22:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Elegy for a Pig

Was this episode made right after an LAPD cop was killed in the line of duty? I thought so the first and only time I saw it. GBC (talk) 04:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Since the episodes were based on real LAPD cases, I would say probably so. ArcAngel (talk) 17:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Elegy for a Cop would have been more respectful but this (Nov 21, 1970) was in the middle of the anti-Vietnam war demos and the cops who were tasked with keeping the peace had a hard time of it, and were called pigs by the demonstrators. This episode may have been something of a PR exercise. There are no start and end themes. Only a subdued narrator with white titles on a black background. The events we are told were true but the names were changed to protect the innocent. Officer Tom Porter (Mark Goddard) is gunned down by a criminal he is chasing. Then it goes into Porter's life. Porter and Malloy joined the Police Academy and trained together. Not only were they thrown together many times in police work, but Malloy was at Porter's wedding (Best Man?) and often visited the house to see him and his wife, and then their two children. It was a cop's funeral, with a good number of the 6,000 cops in Los Angeles attending, with the flag and bugle ceremony. Even more than other episodes, it showed what went on in a cop's day to day life.(80.31.146.92 (talk) 19:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC))

Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [1]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 03:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Cars

Is the in-depth discussion of cars, including press release, really germane? (Any Old Fool (talk) 19:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC))

Yes, the discussion of the cars was very relevant. The cars were part of the allure of the show for many viewers. Where did the section go? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.108.216.149 (talk) 10:38, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Meaning of the name "Adam-12"

What is the name "Adam-12" supposed to represent? Is this some archaic police parlance? The main reason I went to this article was to learn this information, yet it is not discussed. I think someone-- should add this in, especially to the intro. as it is relevant to understanding the origins of the subject.

Thanks, --Kava bean (talk) 18:26, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

See LAPD phonetic alphabet for an explanation. The info probably needs to be integrated into this article, preferably with a ref. Copana2002 (talk) 22:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

•  DoneInformation has been added and a Names section was created (see Item 15 below)--Liaws (talk) 04:28, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Links to Online Sources

Twice now I have attempted to add simple information regarding where the series is available for online viewing, and twice now someone has reverted my edits. I do not wish to get into an edit war, but feel very strongly that the decision to revert my edits is incorrect. Posting the fact that Adam-12 is available through Hulu or Netflix is no more spamming than posting that it is available on DVD. It is not an attempt to advertise a product; it is an attempt to provide complete information on where the series is available. Additionally, listing online sources for a television show is common practice on Wikipedia. The articles for Dragnet, The A-Team, and Knight Rider, just to name three, have that information available and so do many others. -Ithizar (talk) 04:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Those sort of links are often added, and then removed soon after, as are extended lists of international broadcasters, airtimes, and reruns etc.. Generally speaking, Wikipedia is not a directory service or a viewing guide. --Ckatz^chat_spy 05:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hulu

This article should not include any reference to Hulu, albeit in external links, or references to them "broadcasting" the show. This will be deleted if added to the article. Hulu is not "broadcasting", as opposed to shows being streamed on-demand. Nicholasm79 (talk) 17:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, per WP:ELNO, rule 7... "Sites that are inaccessible to a substantial number of users, such as sites that only work with a specific browser or in a specific country." Since Hulu is a service that is only available to users in the United States, I further conclude that references to the site are not a good idea. Nicholasm79 (talk) 02:38, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The policy being quoted refers specifically to external links from articles to sites. That is not what is being discussed here. What is being discussed is the simple inclusion of the fact that a television show is available for viewing on the Hulu service, or other similar services. This is no different than including the fact that a particular television show is currently aired on TV Land or the BBC or any other programming service. Ithizar (talk) 21:42, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hulu/Netflix in body of article

It seems as if we're still having a problem coming to a consensus about Hulu/Netflix in not just this article, but other articles. In my opinion, it wreaks of advertising and is not relevant to put in at all. I still also cite WP:ELNO rule #7, since sites like Hulu and Netflix are NOT available outside of the US. Please, PLEASE, someone come in with thoughts on this! Nicholasm79 (talk) 06:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

To date, no one has yet come in and offered any opinions on this issue. I may post another request at RfC to see if we can get some outside comments. I still maintain my opinion that the information should be included. It is not advertising, anymore than listing what DVD releases of the show have been made is advertising. It is simply giving complete information on the availability of the show in question. We give broadcast information, we give DVD information. If we are going to give those, how can you argue that online distribution is any different?

Secondly, I maintain that WP:ELNO does not apply. No one is talking about linking to to Hulu or Netflix or using them as references. That is what WP:ELNO covers. This is simply mentioning them in the article. If we were to apply WP:ELNO to this situation, we would have to avoid even mentioning any US-only sites in virtually any article, which seems quite unreasonable.

Lastly, I think there is a valid point to be made here in the "other stuff exists" category. Other stuff exists does state that "other stuff" arguments can be invalid, but it also points out that they can be valid as well. In particular, that policy states that "[w]hen used correctly though, these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes. The problem arises when legitimate comparisons are disregarded without thought because 'other stuff existing is not a reason to keep/create/etc.'" In this case, we are definitely not being consistent in what information Wikipedia includes or excludes. I can cite Dragnet, Knight Rider, and Bewitched as examples of shows that have this information included. While that, in and of itself, is not a justification for including the information here, it does demonstrate a lack of consistency in how this type of information is treated across Wikipedia. Ithizar (talk) 08:38, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Unnecessary, contrary to accepted practise, and overly promotional. We don't list every station that airs a show, nor should we list every web site that offers it. If other articles feature the links, that should be incentive to clean them up, rather than to persist here. --Ckatz^chat_spy 19:12, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

"Unnecessary" is an opinion. Contrary to what accepted practice? Can you point to a single policy, guideline or even a former discussion where consensus was formed on this issue regarding Wikipedia's standard practice? I have been able to find none. And, once again, we are not talking about links, nor are we talking about promotion. We are talking about information regarding where the shows are available. If that is promotional, then so is listing DVD releases. Or saying that a show airs on TV Land. We are being very inconsistent here, in a number of ways, and that IS something that Wikipedia policy cautions against. Ithizar (talk) 22:37, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

RfC: Online Viewing Information Relevant/In Policy?

There is a disagreement over whether or not including information regarding the online availability of television shows through services such as Hulu and Netflix, in the portion of the article where broadcast airings and DVD releases are included, is relevant and appropriate to the article and consistent with Wikipedia policies. Is such information relevant, appropriate, and consistent with policy? A previous RfC was posted but received no comments. I would like to ask that other editors please help us to reach a consensus on this matter. Thank you! Ithizar (talk) 22:40, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Inclusion of this information may not violate the letter or any policy or guideline (I can't find an instance where it does); whether it violates one in spirit is debatable (I'd suggest it does, but that's based on my personal interpretation of WP:NOTDIR item 4). Decades from now, the broadcast history will still be important information, and so will the program's release on DVD (and any formats that succeed it). That it's currently viewable by any particular means may be relevant, but only marginally so. Any prospective viewer need only check the Netflix or Hulu sites (or program listings via TV, Web, or print medium) to determine current availability. This does not seem like something one would typically turn to an encyclopedia to find out, and the information is likely to go out of date rather quickly. Rivertorch (talk) (uninvolved editor, came here via RFC) 09:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see this information as any more notable than a list of TV stations that are running Adam-12 or a list of video stores that have the DVDs for sale. The fact that the show is available online to residents of one country provides no information about the show itself, unlike the fact that it was released on DVD which at least speaks to the show's continuing popularity. --NellieBly (talk) 14:53, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite intro to article?

I would like to rewrite the intro to this article and include basic stuff about the show. I was wondering if anybody has any objections. I can post it here first if my fellow Wikipedians would like to look it over before making a decision. Any and all input is greatly appreciated. Thanks. - Hydroxonium (talk | contribs) 04:27, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Seeing no objections, I have rewritten the intro to this article. Please change it, if it is not to your liking. Thanks. - Hydroxonium (talk | contribs) 07:43, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Is this article plagarized from another web site?

There is a website / fansite at www.1adam12-1adam12.com. A good deal of the wording of this article seems to be taken from that website. I'm not about to get into rewriting this article, but I thought I'd mention that there may be a problem of plagarizing.

If you go to the website be forwarned that the Adam 12 will start playing, so don't bring it up at the library or other public place unless you have earphones on!--Karenthewriter (talk) 02:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I would have to say that your right, much of the article contains stuff that is not entirely true. If you need help cleaning it up, just let me know. Dusty777 21:00, 4 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dusty777 (talk • contribs)

Cleanup Complete.

I think i have completely cleaned up the article. I have added multiple references, some rewriting, rewording removal of paragraphs that contained false or incorrect information. If you have any questions please feel free to ask. (its in my watch list so i should know if you ask) Thanks!! Dusty777 (talk) 20:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

What the hell give you the right to remove entire sections of information that people have supplied, just because you think it doesn't belong there? You can request citations, correct grammar and spelling, or whatever, but I and others worked very hard to make that page informative and accurate. You managed to destroy that. Good work...

BTW, I will be putting back what was removed as best I can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdryan (talk • contribs) 09:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

What happened to the "Cars" section? That was actually useful information.

Allow me to clear some stuff up for you:

1. Everything i got rid of did not contain entire facts.

2. Most of the stuff was plagiarized from another website.

3. The whole article needed was sloppily written.

It may look like i got rid of a lot of stuff, but it was not all verifiable. If you would like to help me out and look for some reliable sources, you are more then welcome.

As for the reason i removed the cars section, is that a the model of two of the cars, are not verifiable. As soon as i find out the correct info, i will put the section back in. Dusty777 (talk) 02:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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Good info but should it be in the lead?

There's a lot of worthwhile information regarding the meaning of the call sign Adam-12 and how it's deciphered but its lengthy detail doesn't seem to fit in the lead like it is now. To be consistent with standard wiki format there should merely be a brief mention in the lead with more elaboration in a passage or section in the body of the article. So I'm not suggesting any of it be removed but that it needs to be broken up so the lead provides a more balanced summary of article content. Batvette (talk) 22:34, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Moved the detail about the term "Adam-12" from the lead to a separate section. Still needs references for the claims! CZmarlin (talk) 23:17, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

•  Done Cites/references have been added to Names section but Improve Section tag was not removed. --Liaws (talk) 04:33, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Parody

In an episode of "Batman" Kent McCord guests stars as a rookie Gotham Policeman who wants to give Batman a speeding ticket! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.242.65 (talk) 16:41, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

A very quick recovery

In the episode "The Search" (Season 4, Episode 5, Oct 20, 1971), Officer Malloy is in a bad car accident and suffers a ruptured spleen with internal bleeding and a broken leg (and possibly other undiagnosed injuries). Yet next episode "The Ferret" (Oct 27), Malloy looks to be in perfect health and even twice chases a suspect. (80.30.191.121 (talk) 17:42, 27 July 2015 (UTC))

Airport

In the fourth series (#20) episode "Sub-station", Malloy and Reed take a week's vacational leave (a working holiday) as cops at LAX (Los Angeles Airport) and the whole show takes place in and around the airport. They were back for another turn at the iairport in L.A. International in season 6. (80.31.144.16 (talk) 16:00, 8 August 2015 (UTC))

Shaaron Claridge

In the main article it is said that she is a real-life LAPD dispatcher. There is a "citation needed" message there. If you click on her name, you will see all the citation needed for evidence of this. (80.31.144.16 (talk) 16:04, 8 August 2015 (UTC))

Officer Gerard Woods

The character was played by Fred Stromsoe. He was always in the credits of seasons 5 and 6, even when not in that episode.(80.31.144.16 (talk) 09:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC))

Fraud

The last episode of season 6 (Clinic on Eighteenth Street), both officers make very short appearances at the start and finish as the show follows the work of the overworked "Major fraud and customer protection division". (80.31.144.16 (talk) 09:21, 28 September 2015 (UTC))

Rapist Beware

The seventh season episode called "Lady Beware" deals with rape. Female students are told by a police woman (sergeant) if a man gets them from behind, to gouge out his eye, to scar him for life, and to use a sharp comb handle or pen, which though they don't say it exactly, is meant to go in the rapist's eye and blind him for life. or if pushed hard, go through into his brain and kill him.(80.31.144.16 (talk) 15:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC))

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Other notable actors and actresses--stars

This section uses the terms "stars" and "guest-stars." Is there a standard Wikipedia definition for this usage? For one thing, I don't know what the distinction is in terms of an actor appearing in (typically) one episode. And for another, some of these actors were on screen for a small fraction of the episode--I wouldn't say they "starred" in the episode. Any thoughts? Alden Loveshade (talk) 05:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Nashville Beat

The 1989 Nashville Network TV movie was definitely influenced by Adam-12, not only through the casting of Milner and McCord as O'Neal and Delaney, but having those characters be prior LAPD and hinting at a similar and then continuing working relationship. knoodelhed (talk) 18:57, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Audio heard on 1950s Dragnet episodes

Dispatch traffic addressed to 1-Adam-12 or 1-A-12 was heard from receiver speakers inside the police station on some episodes of the show. - knoodelhed (talk) 01:05, 2 December 2022 (UTC)