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Gender Roles in the Agora section
editMuch of this section is not entirely relevant to the agora itself, and touches on a competely sperate societal issue.
"Women in ancient Athens were not equivalent to men in any way. Women were considered homemakers. The Athenian agora was the arena of Athenian politics and business, of a civic order primarily dominated by male citizens. Spokesman of the Athenian patriarchy preached that no female should be in public places, including the Agora. Public places were considered the property of male citizens."
This is in the article without source or attribution. I removed it until it's better cited. There are many instances of women being involved and present in the agora's of most greek cities.
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Thanks to User:Adam Carr. --Maio 03:59, Mar 4, 2004 (UTC)
Definition of agora
editShouldn't the article define what an agora actually is?
- I agree. I'm trying to disambig the Israeli currency and can't figure out what to put in "this article is about...". Valley2city 17:26, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Fact Label
editAnd the fact next to it... I know that agora has an accent on the first A in greek, but I do not believe that is so in English. In English, I believe we say ag-O-ra. Do you agree? -Panther (talk) 10:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
No. Agora (Ἀγορά) has an accent on the last letter, arguably an alpha. I don't have an opinion on the English pronounciation. Groogle (talk) 07:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Verb forms
editThe verb forms for αγοράζω (agorázō) and αγορεύω (agoreýō) are clearly first person present. I've checked in Liddell and Scott, and for some reason they translate this form as the infinitive. I'm not 100% sure what the correct infinitive forms are, so I've change the English translations.
Liddell and Scott say nothing about the state of dress for αγορεύω, so presumably it's not part of the word. I've removed the word "naked". Groogle (talk) 07:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Forum of Thessaloniki, not Agora
editThe picture of the 'agora' of Thessaloniki you have there is actually the Roman Forum of Thessaloniki, it was built after the death of Alexander the Great by the Romans so therefore its not an Agora... =P 94.67.213.196 (talk) 16:07, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Capitalization?
editIs "agora" capitalized? I know the article title is, but when its in the middle of sentence (e.g., "Later, the Agora...")? I would think not, but am not sure of the controlling rule. Herostratus (talk) 05:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think it is, and I just decapped that and some other random words in the article. If it were part of the name of a specific place, I guess it would become a proper noun, but I think as a standalone word - in English - it is not. And my Chambers agrees. Huw Powell (talk) 15:54, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Somewhat impenetrable introduction
editThe second sentence in this article says this of agora:
"It is the best representation of city form’s response to accommodate the social and political order of the polis."
Would most readers know that a polis is a city state in ancient Greece? Shouldn't polis at least be a link to the Wikipedia entry for the word? And what is "city form"? And response to what? Not "to" in the sense of objective (which we know to be accommodation), but "to" in the sense of agency, i.e. what evoked the response? And what does it mean to accommodate an order?
I *think* this is trying to say that as city states formed in ancient Greece, central open spaces known as agoras often served an important role by providing a meeting area for political and social discourse, or something of the sort. Is that close? Would it be worth the effort to try to make this sentence clearer? AmigoNico (talk) 01:17, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Proposed split
editAthenian Agora already redirects to the existing Ancient Agora of Athens. How would a new article at Athenian Agora not duplicate Ancient Agora of Athens? - Donald Albury 16:48, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- agreed that there's no need for a new article for what could be in Ancient Agora of Athens; that being said, it is true that four sections specifically on the Athenian agora in this article (out of six!) is probably excessive! Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 11:54, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Exequiel Zeballos
editEL MEJOR JUGADOR DEL MUNDO SIN COMPARACION NO JODAN 190.172.88.1 (talk) 16:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)