Talk:Al Diaz (artist)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:19, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that graffiti artist Al Diaz has found new uses for New York's subway signs? Source: https://hyperallergic.com/642220/street-wisdom-of-al-diaz-a-first-generation-graffiti-artist/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Davy's on the Road Again

Created by ArtHistorian1014 (talk). Nominated by Bogger (talk) at 15:00, 28 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Al Diaz (artist); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• ALT1 ... that graffiti artist Al Diaz makes work from liberated New York metro signs that he cuts up and re-configures into his own text from the preexisting signage letters? Same source
• ATL2 ...that graffiti artist Al Diaz, once a potential target of New York Mayor Ed Koch, was eventually honored by Mayor Bill de Blasio, for his graffiti contributions to the city?Sources: https://www.businessinsider.com/ed-koch-wanted-to-use-wolves-to-stop-graffiti-2013-2
  https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-gSource: raffiti-legend-wins-praise-from-unlikely-admirers-11552237314
• ALT3 ...that although New York Mayor Ed Koch once called for wild wolves to deal with graffiti artists, Mayor Bill de Blasio gave Al Diaz an embossed award?Same sources

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral: - see below
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

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• Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Moved from draft 10/28/2023. Minor issues with tone outside of NPOV, as noted below. The first hook is not present in the article. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 17:25, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

• There wording does not meet the impartial tone of WP:NPOV in several places. Rephrase or omit the following:
  • and identity as a trailblazer
  • An experimentation in hype that turned almost cultish,
  • setting the history straight about his integral role in the duo,
• The text in the article is "Today, Diaz makes work from liberated New York metro signs that he cuts up and re-configures into his own text from the preexisting signage letters." This is a bit too far way from the DYK hook.Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 17:43, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
• ArtHistorian1014 and Bogger, thanks for the work on this artist. The hook in the nom isn't in the article, and there are several minor issues with tone. The impartial tone section of WP:NPOV gives some guidance on Wikipedia's art articles. You can {{ping}} me if you have any questions or when you feel the nomination is ready to go forward, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 17:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
  • @Rjjiii: tidied article and added ALTs -Bogger (talk) 19:43, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Issues with NPOV are resolved. ALT1 is solid. The other two hooks are verifiable but not present in the article. Bogger, are you planning to revise or expand the Award sections?Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 19:57, 28 October 2023 (UTC) Edit: also, you could probably work either ALT2 or ALT3 in at the end of the lead. I think they'd fit well there, since it currently kind of stops early in carrer/life.20:00, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
    • @Rjjiii: Added ALT2/3 to the article. I won't rework the lede. -Bogger (talk) 20:33, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
      • ALT1 is present and verified by the sources. Other hook options are not present in the article. No issues with the article. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 20:58, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

"Liberated"

How exactly is a street sign "liberated"? Are we talking about discarded signage that has been removed, or is this a euphemism for theft? This is an encyclopaedia. Let's not play coy with the language, please. 97.102.30.205 (talk) 15:37, 7 December 2023 (UTC)