Talk:Alfred von Niezychowski

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Shouldn't his name be Nieżychowski? With ż instead of z?--SylwiaS | talk 18:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I did check, but all records available to me list it as Niezychowski (for example, that is how his name is listed in his book, and all the newspaper clippings that I have available). It's clearly the "most common English usage". I am still interested, however, in finding any other information about him or his family. If you locate any references with the alternate spelling, I would very much like to see them. Elonka 18:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I added one link. You'll like it! Well, he's definitely Nieżychowski in Polish. There was a discussion on Wiki some time ago about the names' spelling. Some years ago all Polish names in other countries were spelled without Polish letters. That's just because they weren't able to print them. In old news there were cities like Gdansk or Wroclaw. Today, they're often called Gdańsk and Wrocław. Simply because now all the fonts are available to publishing houses all over the world. For an English speaker it doesn't really matter what his name is spelled like. They aren't able to pronounce it correctly anyway. But for people who know how to pronounce it it makes a big difference. So, since it's possible on Wiki (it wasn't some time ago) we make all the articles' titles with the proper Polish spelling and redirects for all possible variations. You may also check how it's make with Tadeusz Kościuszko. There is even several variations of his name, but the real one is only one.--SylwiaS | talk 18:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the link! I've seen that site before, but take it with a grain of salt since I've seen other names that I know are misspelled (for example, Alfred's wife's name was Ulman, not Ullman). But I'm convinced of the Polish spelling of his ancestors' name now. As for the article title, it should still stay at "Niezychowski", since that's the way it's printed on his book. My guess is that he changed it to the Americanized spelling when he became a citizen. He also evidently ran for office under that name. But what do you think his birthname probably was? I have no idea what is the Polish equivalent of "Alfred". Elonka 22:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes life is simple - Alfred is Alfred :)--SylwiaS | talk 00:13, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Antoni Dunin

Sylwia, regarding the interlink fix -- I originally listed him as Antoni Dunin, not Antoni Dunin, because I am not sure if Antoni will have his own page. He was szlachta, a Polish army officer, was awarded the Virtuti Militari, and died in combat in September 1939 during the German blitzkrieg. Aside from that, very little is known about him except who he was related to. If more information about him can be found though, I would indeed love to see an article about him. Elonka 18:48, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I guessed as much. But since there will be so many other articles related to him, and he himself was notable too, than why not? After all Wiki is not paper. I wouldn't add him to the list of famous Poles, but it doesn't mean that people reading other articles cannot get more information about him from Wiki. There may be a very short article about him, and he may be added to Category:Recipients of Virtuti Militari. I personally think that the more articles the better. I'll give you an example. I'm very interested in Regency England. Sometimes I'm researching people who lived then, trying to get the best possible picture about those times. I want to know who was related to whom, what political options they chose, what influenced them etc. Sometimes people were more notable in their own times than later. For example if a group of politicians used to gather in a home of a lady, who herself wasn't anything else than a good hostess, it's still important to know that she existed and who her guests used to be. History is quite selective and puts some people into shadow. Still, if you're particularly interested in a subject, every bit of information is important.--SylwiaS | talk 19:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. I've created a stub page for Antoni Dunin. Perhaps someone with more access to military history than I can fill in some of the details. BTW, it would be nice if someone could translate the "Duninowie" article from the Polish wikipedia, so we have a "Dunin" page here on the English side. Elonka 21:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

It seems that all what is there comes from this site [1]--SylwiaS | talk 11:56, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

OR

I have deleted the OR tag on this article as it appears to be a WP:POINT violation: Matt57 is presently in a dispute with one of the relatives of the article's subject, at an RfA and the Kaaba article. If there are genuine concerns about OR here, please place {{fact}} tags to request specific citations or feel free to engage here. Matthew 16:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

B-class review

Failed, due to insufficient references. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 21:08, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Piotrus, as we discussed years ago, the article is well-sourced, and compliant with policy. I have no wish to get into another edit war with you about whether or not the article should be tagged, so I have moved the cleanup tag down to the references section. There is really no reason to have a prominent banner at the top of the page. It is my recommendation that you respect this choice, so as not to stir up this dispute all over again. --Elonka 22:09, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I am fine with the tag being at the bottom. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 22:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Improper italicization

There is no grammatical or expository reason to italicize former German names of now-Polish localities in the areas transferred under border changes following WWI. In English, italics usually denote foreign (non-English) words for things or concepts, but not place names. In German times, Poznań was officially Posen, not Posen, and the German name should not be italicized. Sca (talk) 15:00, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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