Talk:All India Muslim Students Federation

script tagging

Needs Urdu script. Chris 03:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hijacked page

This article was created about the All India Muslim Students Federation (AIMSF), a notable organization that in 1937 split off from the All-India Students Federation (AISF) at Aligarh University. The page was unilaterally moved from All India Muslim Students Federation to the shorter title, Muslim Students Federation, and has at various times been rewritten by editors who want it to be about one or more organizations other than AIMSF. If one of those organizations is notable (I've seen no evidence that any are) then a stand alone article may be created about them, but not by overwriting the article on AIMSF. I am returning this page to it's original title to properly reflect the intended topic. It should not be repurposed or moved again without consensus. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:57, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

The MSF founded in 1936/1937 is essentially the same as the present-day MSF. The dilemma is, with the Partition of India the All India Muslim League was divided into two; the Pakistan Muslim League and the Indian Union Muslim League. The same would have happened with the student wing of the party, MSF. The MSF in Pakistan then underwent a number of shifts, splits and mergers. But the Pakistani MSF is significantly bigger than the Indian MSF today. Should we consider the original MSF as the same as the present-day MSF, or should we consider that the original MSF ended with Partition and then threat Pakistani and Indian MSFs as 'new' entities? --Soman (talk) 15:46, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree with your description of the division of the student wing at Partition. I'm less sure about "essentially the same". I would say that the All India Muslim Students Federation ended with Partition. Various organizations may trace their roots to the AIMSF, but since Partition have different names, goals, and membership. It would help if Muslim Students Federation didn't redirect here. One possibility would be to turn the redirect Muslim Students Federation into a disambiguation page:

Muslim Students Federation may refer to:

• All India Muslim Students Federation (1937-1947)
• Kerala State Muslim Students Federation (?-present)
• any other Indian or Pakistani MSFs that can be shown to be notable

If advocates of an article about the present-day nationwide MSF in India can demonstrate that it is notable and the primary topic, they're welcome to the Muslim Students Federation title. In that case create Muslim Students Federation (disambiguation) to list all organizations that the name might refer to at some period of history or in some region. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:27, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Muslim Students Federation - MSF which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 14:50, 12 January 2021 (UTC)