Talk:Alucard (Hellsing)

Shipping ugliness with poor grammar

I removed it. It seems someone needs how to capitalize and punctuate, before learning how to read an adult manga. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lemon Muffin (talk • contribs) 23:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I had to revert back to yours as people keep throwing in fan speculation and all kinds of bizarre stuff. DeviantCharles (talk) 18:41, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Grammar Overhaul

I corrected as much grammar and removed as much fluff as I could without sacrificing relevant content. I suggest the copy-editing tag be removed, preferably after a second person running through it to make sure I missed nothing obvious. Laranesight (talk) 21:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Hirano

The Hirano article says that Alucard started in a prototype manga for Hellsing, not called Hellsing, if so, then that should be added here. 76.66.198.171 (talk) 23:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

... um sence it says um edit page i just wanted to add something im erin and im like little more then a fan and it's come to my attanchin that many poeple try to...copy alucard and i notest that every one v_v gets the hat rong if you would take a pictrue and copy the detales you would get it rite —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.2.108.179 (talk) 23:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

The Name Hirano should be removed for it's already taken?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.204.40 (talk) 02:40, 17 April 2010 (UTC) 

Copy Editing

I'm trying to finish cleaning up this page, but I'm not wonderfully familiar with what needs to be taken out. To me, anything beyond a basic reference to another character and a link to that character should be removed for this particular page, as it's long enough without that information. If anyone could give more specifics as to what should stay and what should go, please do. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laranesight (talk • contribs) 21:53, July 12, 2009

Didn't get any comments on this, so went ahead and removed everything I thought sounded fansite-like, or too in-universe. Would like some input on it if it is undone, and if not, I'm going to remove the in-universe tag and the copy editing tag. Laranesight (talk) 22:09, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for trying to tackle this, but no, it is not fixed nor done. Many of your edits were quite good, though in some cases you made it more in-universe by removing out of universe references to chapters and volumes. For general tip son what needs to go, see WP:WAF, WP:MOS-AM, and some of our GA level character articles, such as Himura Kenshin, Rock Lee, Belldandy, Sasuke Uchiha, Gaara, Sakura Haruno, and Rukia Kuchiki. In the future, if you find you aren't getting adequate responses, feel free to post at the talk page of the Anime and manga project. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 00:56, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Laranesight (talk) 02:35, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Revamp

I'm not sure if it was a good thing to remove everything removed in the last edit especially since the pistols are the character's signature weapons. His backstory as Dracula is somewhat important as well. I rewrote the page to a file and took out the original research stuff in the guns and history section and tried to make it sound out of universe. I'm going to go through the manga and anime to get the appropriate citations for as much of this as possible, since I know for sure most of this, if not all, is straight from the manga. Not trying to be annoying, but I think a middle ground between the two most recent versions is in order. I will update the page as soon as the citations are verified. Laranesight (talk) 05:46, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Keep in mind that as the manga is the primary work, it should be the primary focus here. The backstory as "Dracula" is only important if it can be properly proven through reliable sources (as, from my saw, it was all WP:OR based on "obviousness"). -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 06:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying, and it will be specifically cited this time. If I can't find it or it's not outright said, I won't include it, and no more OR. Thanks again for the help, and hopefully we can get this page to resemble a decent article! Laranesight (talk) 17:21, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

No prob :) If you need help with doing the cites or in doing research, don't hesitate to ask. Would certainly think Alucard should have enough notability to have his own article, so would recommend focusing on demonstrating that as well by adding appropriate creation/conception and reception information. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 17:32, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Three days of looking at Hellsing manga and my retinas are burnt out. Is there such a thing as over-citing? Laranesight (talk) 01:01, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

In some cases, yes...but depends on the context. Usually over-citing is popping in 5+ references for a single statement unlikely to be challenged or considered controversial. -- AnmaFinotera (talk ·contribs) 01:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, no, it's not that bad, good. Thanks, and I HOPE we can get this cleaned up together after I get my notes transferred. They shall be added in sections over the next few days. Thanks again! Laranesight (talk) 01:12, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

The references list is quite long, but I will shorten it with the notes thinger after getting all the information up, just fyi. Laranesight (talk) 15:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

The references are fine and I really hate the notes method of referencing, so don't worry about that. However, it would be nice if they were using the {{cite book}} template. :) -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 15:36, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I was worried about the number of repeats. I mean, there's only nine volumes and there's twenty-eight references, so it could be reduced to nine references with the notes method. It would be cleaner cut. I'll be glad to switch to that template, except I thought it would be too cluttered in the edit page of the article (another reason why the notes method appealed). Also, I don't know if the template should be placed in the article instead of the references template, or just at the bottom. Alas, for I am still a newbie. Suggestions/help? Laranesight (talk) 17:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Repeats are fine, though one way we have addressed this in the past is to reference chapters rather than specific pages within the chapters (see List of Tokyo Mew Mew characters for an example using this). This keeps the number of refs to a lower number. Though 28 refs really isn't bad either way. :) Now, 200 might be overkill LOL. For the template, it is placed where you place the normal references text. So this;

Hirano, Kohta (2007). Hellsing, Volume 8. Dark Horse Books/Digital Manga Publishing. p. 184-199. ISBN 9781593077808.

becomes

Hirano, Kohta (July 4, 2007). Hellsing, Volume 8. Digital Manga Publishing. pp. 184–199. ISBN 978-1-59307-780-8.

Hope that helps some :)-- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 18:06, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Indeed it did! I'll work on changing those as the week goes on. What about the tags? Are any of them okay to remove, since the article has changed significantly? Laranesight (talk) 04:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand how it's synthesis if it is outright stated? I'm apparently confused... Laranesight (talk) 16:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

As the content you added noted, there are "hints" and "allusions", but only one character calls him Dracula (which could be an identifier or an exclamation). The first line you are adding to the lead is already there (as an FYI). Third-party sources are needed to state that he is THE Dracula and to basically confirm the hints and allusions add up to what they seem to add up to. A primary source (i.e. the manga) can only be used to describe the actual events/actions/words in the series, not to interpret or draw conclusions from it. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 16:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand now; thank you for explaining! I assume we'd need something more official than a few dozen fansites? Laranesight (talk) 17:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Yep :) I'd suggest looking at some of the reviews cited in the receipt section or other RS reviews, particularly for those volumes. They are likely to talk about it there. :) -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 17:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Why the big changes??

Guys, this page used to contain so much info. It's been stripped nearly to the bone. Seras and Alexander's pages have so much more detailed info. I don't get why it was necessary to strip out so much info. All the stuff about how he was finally defeated, then finally came back into being is gone. Discussion of his abilities, supposition about his origins, his massive regeneration capabilities etc. etc. Why was it all taken out? 41.11.252.253 (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

restriction system

Hello, i was reading the article and I think that there should be more information about the restriction system that controls his transformation. I also believe that there should be more information about his origins. Master1001 (talk) 02:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure that what I did was original research...

There IS an Alucard in the Castlevania series. I made that edit to prevent confusion. Could you please explain why you reverted it? 68.4.214.54 (talk) 01:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, Wikipedia screwed up when I tried to edit the article. 68.4.214.54 (talk) 01:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Alucard as Dracula

There's another piece of the whole "Alucard is dracula" thing that I think is worth mentioning: In the final episode of the TV series he kills the vampire Incognito by impaling him from ass to mouth on a silver spike. This was the preferred method of execution of Vlad the Impaler, the historical figure on whom Dracula was based. Just thought it was worth mentioning as I see no mention of it elsewhere. 99.99.166.179 (talk) 22:18, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

hellsing or helsing

Author uses both spellings... need to pick one. Also agree that article is of low importance. --RichardMills65 (talk) 06:16, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

stop deleting. My edits! Please

I mean seriously, I know there are fans of integra and alucard but there are also alucard x seras fans. In my opinion if you don't like DON'T READ!

For heavens sake let us have our paring! Stop ruining things for alucardxseras fans. We Don't go around bashing integraxalucard. So stop deleting my edits about alucard's relationships!

Answer: -Wikipedia is NOT an outlet for speculation on any details -That romanticism shipping fodder in his relationship with Seras is out of place speculation without real Manga support -All information is supposed to be validly sourced, and speculation without exceptional references is never acceptable -Because of that, it will be always removed -You can have your pairing. On a fanfiction site, not here. Keep fiction away from facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.108.244.69 (talk) 15:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Agreed! Just because someone edits in "it's hinted that they have romantical/sexual relationship" it doesn't become truth. Alucard x Seras doesn't exists, not even a single hint of it. I don't know what manga have those fans read. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.91.86.159 (talk) 13:13, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

"Fictional genetically engineered characters"

I think this categorie is wrong, can anyone point me to where it is said he was genetically engineered? 87.152.190.178 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:03, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Answer: Well, in one point in the manga, when Integra introduces Alucard, she mentions something that Alucard is the result of the Hellsing's family's research. I think this categorie is a result of a theory born from that line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.191.175 (talk) 12:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)