Talk:Amir Sjarifuddin/GA1

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 202.80.217.97 in topic GA Review

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Reviewer: Ganesha811 (talk · contribs) 13:28, 15 April 2022 (UTC)Reply


Hi! I'll be reviewing this article, using the template below. Thanks for your patience in waiting for someone to pick this up! Ganesha811 (talk) 13:28, 15 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

@The man from Gianyar: I just noticed you haven't edited in a week or so. Are you available to respond to comments on this GA, or would it be helpful to put it on hold for a little while? Either way is fine - just let me know! Ganesha811 (talk) 18:16, 19 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
@The man from Gianyar: as it's been another week and there has been no response, I intend to close this review tomorrow without prejudice. If you re-nominate it, feel free to ping me and I'll see if I can pick it up for a new review. In the meantime, my comments below would provide a starting point for improvements. Ganesha811 (talk) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
I'm going to fail this GA review without prejudice due to nominator non-response. As I mentioned, I'd be happy to see a re-nomination in the future. Feel free to ask any questions about this on my talk page. Ganesha811 (talk) 14:43, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
No, Amir isn't his family name. It's his first name. Actually he has family name "Harahap" but because he's part of The 1928 Youth Pledge, he didn't use his family name anymore to support nationalism spirit. Since his family name indicates ethnicity. Harahap itself is a family name from Batak ethnic group. Amir also had peerage "Sutan Gunung Soaloon" but he didn't use it too. 202.80.217.97 (talk) 10:24, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
  1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  • Quick question: is Amir his family name, a personal name, or something else? By Western name order it appears to be his personal name, but I'm assuming that since Amir is used throughout the article, it was a family name? Ganesha811 (talk) 18:57, 16 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
  1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
  • Why is an infobox used separately in the 'Prime Minister' section? I think we could just keep the image and not the infobox.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
  2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  • The link to the Purba source leads to a maintenance page. It's ok if the source is offline, but if a better link is available, please switch them out.
  2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
  • I'm not sure an Indonesian army (report?) from 1968 discussing defense-related events of only 20 years prior can be considered neutral. I would find alternate sources to support the information and remove any reliance on the Army source except to discuss the Army's own views.
  • Toer may not be neutral either as he was a significant participant in political activity at the time, but the fact Toer is referenced to support is uncontroversial and so I don't think it's actually an issue.
  2c. it contains no original research.
  2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
  • Earwig finds a significant overlap between the article and a 2012 blog post on Amir. The text appears to be in the article as of 2011, suggesting that the blog copied from Wikipedia and not vice versa. @The man from Gianyar:, do you have any other knowledge of this, or does it look like a blog copying from Wiki to you too? Provisional pass for now. Neither earwig or manual spot check turned up anything else noteworthy.
3. Broad in its coverage:
  3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
  3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  • No edit wars, no major expansion ongoing, pass.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
  • Generally look good, but the following images need a US copyright tag in addition to the Indonesian one:
    • File:A.K. Gani, Amir Sjarifudin, Urip Sumohardjo, and Mohamad Isa at the mass meeting in Grand Mosque of Palembang.jpg
    • File:Mr. Amir Sjarifuddin Ketua Delegasi R.I., sedang menyampaikan pidatonya.png
    • File:Amir Sjarifuddin.jpg
    • File:Amir Sjarifuddin captured.jpg
  6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
  • Pass, no issues.
  7. Overall assessment.
  • Comment Understanding that he was prime minister for six months, shouldn’t there be more information regarding his premiership? At the moment, his prime minister section is 2 paragraphs of background, 1 sentence on his appointment, 1 sentence on his actual tenure, and 1 sentence on his fall. There is also a lack of explanation on why he has 2 cabinets - a reshuffle I would assume, but it is not mentioned in the article. Juxlos (talk) 16:51, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply