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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 November 2019 and 14 December 2019. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Callthedoc23. Peer reviewers: JoshuaMS4.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 14:24, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Peer Review
edit1) Is the article clear and understandable? Yes, the article does a nice job being easy to read and comprehend and flows well from one section to the next.
2) Is everything in the article relevant to the article topic? Is there anything that distracted you? Everything appears to be relevant to the article. Could consider leaving anorexia nervosa out of the opening line as writer does a nice job distinguishing between the two in the following paragraph in the lead section.
3) Would it be understandable to a non-medical person? Yes, for the most part the article would be understandable to a non-medical person. The Physiology portion of the article may be difficult for a non-medical person to understand as there is a lot of biochemical terminology, but I believe this is just the nature of the subject matter and should not be altered. This section was particularly well done.
4) Is the article neutral and balanced? Are there any claims that appear heavily biased toward a particular position? Is the supporting evidence from unbiased sources? Yes, the article was neutral and balanced. The sources were unbiased, from textbooks and government websites.
5) Are there viewpoints that are overrepresented, or underrepresented? No. Could consider expanding on the hunger signaling hormones to discuss more what each is responsible for. Could also consider expanding the Complications section.
6) Is the article supported by reliable evidence? Is each fact referenced with an appropriate, reliable reference? Are the citations from publicly available sources? Does the article paraphrase or plagiarize? Is the cited evidence current? Yes, the evidence appears to be from reliable sources, including government sources and medical textbooks. The article appears to be well cited.
Overall Impression: Overall the article is very well written with a variety of sources and good explanation on the topic as well as disambiguation between anorexia and anorexia nervosa.
--JoshuaMS4 (talk) 16:16, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
MUSC Wikiproject 2019
editI am a fourth year medical student who will be modifying this page over the next few weeks as part of the wikipedia medical project. There is some notable confusion about the difference between anorexia as a symptom (this page) and the mental health diagnosis, anorexia nervosa. This a summary of my work plan: I will first define anorexia and differentiate it from anorexia nervosa. I will create an italic header at the top to say "Not to be confused with anorexia nervosa." I will add a section title manifestations of anorexia and discuss ways that people can manifest with the symptom of anorexia. I will then change the causes section to pathophysiology and include the biophysical causes of anorexia. I will then change the current causes section to common conditions associated with anorexia, and then include a section anorexia as a drug side effect. I will then redo the complications section as cardiac complications are not the only complications. For all my sections, I will include citations from various medical textbooks, clinicalkey, uptodate, and lexicomp. I will redo the current citations as many of them are inaccurate. Finally, my work will be peer-reviewed by preceptors and others from my medical class. I appreciate any feedback to help avoid medical jargon and will use a variety of editing tools to do so. --Callthedoc23 (talk) 20:18, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- This week I did the anorexia vs anorexia nervosa section. It was a little hard to find sources for anorexia specifically but I provided links to the other wikipedia pages. This coming week I will focus on the common manifestations and pathophys sections. I will describe how appetite controlled and how it is interrupted in anorexia. I hope to add these by next week. Feel free to comment on anything I need to add. -Callthedoc23 (talk) 02:11, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Sounds like a good plan!
--Emilybrennan (talk) 13:35, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Misc.
editThis article is not taken seriously enough, and dosen't provide any useful information or offsite links. There is very little information about this disorder on the net, and it seems to be mostly confused with anorexia nervosa, which it is not. This is highly frustrating for dying cheapskates such as myself who use wikipedia instead of doctors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.252.214 (talk) 23:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Someone wanted to change the article to a redirect to [Anorexia nervosa], but it wasn't done so I changed it.
I changed this to a redirect to Anorexia nervosa as there is no reason to have two pages for the same topic, especially when this page is incomplete and factually incorrect.
- Against. Just read the article - it explains abundantly why the article should not be redirected. Just leave it alone, okay? JFW | T@lk 22:19, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- Agree with JFW. Yes, there is no reason to have two pages for the same topic, but the topic of this article is anorexia, and the topic of the other article is anorexia nervosa. — Knowledge Seeker দ 22:49, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
well i think that people who starve their selfs to be thin and nasty looking is special ed. they need mad help!!!!! deffently!
yeah so..i dont think its right for people to starve themselves because they want to become skinny. the least they could do is go on a diet n exercise..its not that hard and if u do starve yourself you can risk your life in many ways!!
- Guys, are you referring to anorexia nervosa? That is indeed a serious condition. However, anorexia (without the "nervosa") is just a symptom that can occur due to a bladder infection, stress or even cancer. Please comment on talk:anorexia nervosa if this is what you meant, and not here. JFW | T@lk 08:50, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Merge with Anorexia Nervosa
editI propose this article be merged into Anorexia Nervosa because that is the full name of the condition. --Boborok 22:22, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Anorexia is different from anorexia nervosa. Please take a look at the article if the difference is unclear (or at least read the disamiguation sentence at the top of the article). I remvoed the tag. — Knowledge Seeker দ 22:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- The article is about anorexia as used in Greek. Anorexia in other languages (incl. English) most often refers to Anorexia Nervosa. --Boborok 16:45, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- I am sorry I wasn't clear. This article is about anorexia as used in medicine. Could you specify what content from here you think would be appropriate to merge to Anorexia nervosa? I cannot see what would be relevant there. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:18, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- The article is about anorexia as used in Greek. Anorexia in other languages (incl. English) most often refers to Anorexia Nervosa. --Boborok 16:45, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Redirect this to Anorexia nervosa
editYes, anorexia and anorexia nervosa are different things, but the word "anorexia" is used, by far, to refer to the eating disorder. Shouldn't this page be moved elsewhere, and Anorexia redirect there? --Szabo 23:24, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- I just made this change, as requested above. The term 'anorexia' is used almost exclusively in the popular media, and scientific and medical literature to refer to anorexia nervosa and not the symptom (which is largely an outdated usage). This is obvious from searching the international medical database PubMed. So, I shall return this page to redirect to the anorexia nervosa page and move it to 'anorexia (symptom)' so as not to put obstacles in the way of those trying to understand this condition.
- When I followed the link to the PubMed search, the majority of the search results were explicitly discussing anorexia nervosa (and the first result was for anorexia the symptom). I agree that in lay usage, anorexia nervosa is commonly shortened to anorexia, but since this term has a precise, distinct meaning in medicine, it is inappropriate to redirect it to "anorexia nervosa", nor should that article be using "anorexia" in place of "anorexia nervosa" (see, for example, Encarta's entry). I'll change "anorexia" to a disambiguation page. — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:08, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Agree to keep them separate. Another point is that anorexia is also a VETERINARY diagnosis. Animals may have disordered appetites due to underlying medical conditions (such as Hypertrophic Osteodystrophy in large-breed dogs), but I doubt that they have dysmorphic body images or somesuch. Mang 04:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I know this was from a while ago (almost 5 years - wow!) but I have to say that the people who are proposing to merge the term anorexia as a symptom with the page for anorexia are obviously not individuals who are involved in medicine in any way, shape or form (professional, academically or even leisurely). If they were, they would obviously understand that the word 'anorexia', as it COMES FROM the Greek word (not as its used in greek, as some gem earlier proposed), means a lack of appetite. The condition that everyone knows so well is called anorexia nervosa, not just anorexia. Having the disambiguation page to either the A.N. page or this page is the best way to go about it.
Just a word of advice - having a pop culture knowledge of something does not make you privy to know what the medical community accepts and knows things as. I am currently getting my Doctor of Public Health degree and currently have a Master of Public Health degree in Epidemiology, and I have managed a nonprofit screening program for the past 4 years, and in all my work and school pursuits, we never say "lack of appetite" or "painful urination". We say "anorexia" or "dysuria". You need to know what you're talking about (kinda) to know where to find proper sources to edit articles in Wikipedia. That is all... WiiAlbanyGirl (talk) 09:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Article reads:
edit"It is important and healthy as it prevents overeating and obesity." Does it "prevent"? Or does it "reduce a tendency"? Death would prevent these. Certainly, many other deterrents are avoided. There are many ways to weigh,... There are many ways to get chubby, then fat.
I do not feel qualified to write a less absolute phrase; but, if you have the knowledge,...
Thank You.
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Anorexia vs inappetence
editIn the textbook of clinical examination I have been learning from (in Slovenian; ISBN 961-6030-35-3), the author of the section on abdomen Saša Markovič discernes between inappetence as the loss of appetite and anorexia as the true aversion to food (which is not limited only to anorexia nervosa). Should we cite this? The author has been working for many years as the chief of the Division of gastroenterology and currently is the technical director of the Clinical Center Ljubljana. However, the majority of sources seem to equate anorexia and inappetence. Does anyone have any reliable source in English to confirm this distinction? Or any other comment? --Eleassar my talk 21:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
More Plausible Causes?
editTo me it seems odd that this only gives the trivial cause (having eaten enough) and several rare, extreme causes for the symptom (cancer, mental disorders etc.) whereas the more likely non-trivial causes, such as relatively mild infections, are not discussed. This seems disproportionate to me, and possible a little alarmist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pjc51 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that the list of possible causes is pretty pointless. Just about any minor infection will cause some loss of appetite, as will non medical events such as being preoccupied with work or family issues. I've had a very minor flu-like virus over the last few days and have lost a kilo (2lbs). This is completely typical and normal. --Ef80 (talk) 16:12, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Poorly Constructed
editThis post was poorly constructed, with many links to other sites and information, but no explanatin: ie. why the drugs work, etc. This cite also doesn't explain the psychological view of anorexia, which is a large portion of it. Claire Tracy (talk) 01:44, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Definition
editWhat about hunger problems, can anorexia as a symptom be related to a hunger disorder ?Walidou47 (talk) 09:09, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Anorexia vs Anorexia Nervosa vs Anoretic - suggestions
editSince this is a symptom, I think the top box needs an update (or removal) since it's within psychiatry - may be primary care / general medicine, or gastroenterology? I would rather remove the top box since it's not adding any real information and there's no suggestion of a preference for using them or not in the medical MOS.
The photo is misleading because it is highly unlikely to be someone with anorexia unrelated to anorexia nervosa. I suggest removing. Amousey (they/them pronouns) (talk) 17:30, 27 July 2020 (UTC)