Talk:Antonio Santosuosso

NPOV

In Barbarians, Marauders, and Infidels, Santosuosso, considered an expert historian of the Carolingian era, makes a compelling case that the defeats of invading Muslim armies by Charles Martel, including the famous defeat at Tours, were important as in their defense of Western Christianity and the preservation of those Christian monasteries and centres of learning which ultimately led Europe out of the Dark Ages. He also makes a compelling case that while Tours was unquestionably of macrohistorical importance, the later battles were at least equally so. Both invading forces defeated in those campaigns had come to set up permanent outposts for expansion, and there can be no doubt that these three defeats combined broke the back of Islamic expansion in Europe while the Caliphate was still united. Compelling case?

--Soumyasch 04:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

This info was brought here from another article where it was removed and put back. Whatever isn't neutral about it, remove. I removed "compelling." Srnec 05:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I removed the other "compelling" and the NPOV tag. Is there any reason for the tag? - Runcorn 07:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, let's take a look :

"Santosuosso makes a case that the defeats of invading Muslim armies by Charles Martel were important as in their defense of Western Christianity…

— Duh, that's what France has always loved to think, nothing new or outstanding here. This description makes the professor sound like a grammar school teacher.

"…and the preservation of those Christian monasteries…

— more of the same : obvious : this one does not even need a teacher at all

"…and centres of learning which ultimately led Europe out of the Dark Ages"

— This one is remarkable, as i thought that everyone knows that the Renaissance is what ended the "Dark Ages" (a biased term, BTW), and that the said Renaissance came to France from Italy, mostly made of knowledge and techniques from the Muslim world passed on via the Byzantine Empire.

Is it me, or does this professor sound rather pro-Christian and anti Muslim ? The Dark Ages are alive and well around here ! --Jerome Potts (talk) 06:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)