Talk:Asafoetida

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The main spelling, "asafoetida", has "about 68,900" hits on Google. The alternative spelling, "asafetida", has "about 19,600". Isn't that enough so that the alternative spelling should be mentioned in the article?

Sure, fire away. Bbpen 18:31, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I believe I read somewhere once that asafoetida is a significant component of the flavour of Worcestershire sauce. Can anyone confirm this? Would mentioning this perhaps be useful to give people an idea what the flavour of asafoetida is like?--Srleffler 05:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Asafoetida does not taste in the least like Worcester source. The flavour is like burning rubber blended with garlic - yummy ! One of my favourites, along with durian. g4oep

• Unless it comes under "spices", asafoetida is not in Worcestershire Sauce --PopUpPirate 01:20, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

• • My guess is that Srlefler is thinking of fish sauce: both asafoetida (or silfium) and fish sauce (garum) were notoriously used in Ancient Roman cuisine, and rumors persist that Worcestershire sauce contains the latter. But I have never (outside of this page) heard rumors abotu asafoetida.--Iustinus 07:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

QUESTION: Does anyone have any info about asafetida in north american herbal remedies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.72.130.16 (talk) 01:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Which caste?

A recent edit changed "Brahmin caste" to "trader caste." I don't know much about Indian culture, but this sounds fishy (or smells hinge2402:E280:3D64:172:2543:8C6F:8996:3C44 (talk) 10:05, 17 November 2021 (UTC)?). Can someone who knows more about this either verify that change, or correct it? Thanks, Iustinus 02:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it is ok. Trader casts use them a lot. Also proved by the section below, which is not only a product of Brahmins but also a productof Trader(s) (Baniya). (It is my understanding that Brahmins are a lot like puritans).--18jahremädchen 00:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

It is true that it is used mostly by Vysya(Bania) community, specially in South India. I have seen it being used for the last 60 years and is still used in all Vysya community house holds as a spice in cooking. One company (L.G- LALJEE GODHOO & Co, MUMBAI and CHENNAI ) has been marketing it for at least past 60 years or even more, I know. It is widely used as a main spice in Northern India by all communities and there are lot of companies marketing it. A small city named` Hathras(U.P.)in India is famous for compound Hing(Asafoetida)manufacturing and marketing. R.B.Industries is One of the largest companies there. 59.92.205.166 07:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Try it out at your local Hare Krishna restaurant!!

Hare Krishna cuisine does not use onions or garlic, for which they substitute asafoetida. I used to eat regularly at the Govinda's restaurant in Brisbane, Australia, and often wondered how they got that delicious onion /garlic flavour that you burp up for hours afterwards! I now use asa. powder in all my Indian curries & dahls when I make them. --MichaelGG 03:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Mind you, it acts as contraceptive! :) On a serious note, eat garlic, it is lot better. Hing is used only in very small amounts in Indian cuisines.--18jahremädchen 00:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I doubt whether it works as a contraceptive. I have seen it being used in many of the houses for so many years and never heard at any time, that it has properties as a contraceptive.

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Medical applications???

The list of "medical" usages should contain, as a minimum, references to the sources of the information.

I think it should also contain mention of and references to peer-reviewed scientific research on the purported properties and uses. It would be foolish to medicate yourself or your children based on a wikipedia page, but people do more foolish things that that every day. There should be an effort to find peer-reviewed scientific research articles on the "medical" uses, and if there isn't any, then the article should say that there isn't any.

It's not that I think traditional medicines and non-western approaches have no value. Many plants contain powerful chemicals with pharmacological effects. We need reliable information about their effects on both healthy and sick people, possible side effects, interactions with other drugs or medicinal herbs, etc.

This section uses a lot of passive construction: "it is said that...", "it is also reported..." Who said it? Who reported it? Give us some basis by which we can evaluate the information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Social Norm (talk • contribs) 00:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Asafoetida also definitely has Opiate antagonist properties, I believe this property is not much researched in the west or the compound responsible for this known. This is traditional medical knowledge in India, I believe the general rule is "Antidote for Opium: If taken in equal quantities of opium ingested, asafoetida counters the effect of the drug, and so acts as an antidote for it." 175.38.161.131 (talk) 16:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Persia vs Iran

Curious: Why are we referring to Persia, (with Iran in brackets)? Why not simply Iran? --Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 19:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC) thought: Possibly because the references are from Iran (Persia) from before Iran (Persia) was called Iran (Persia). I don't think anything political was intended.

How can Persia be versus Iran when both are of the same? Stupid title for a discussion, though not meant personally. Persia had its name changed to Iran after King Reza (1920's) however in a historical and geographical context, Iran is used to refer to present day borders, and Persia to refer to the ancient borders, which reached almost all corners of West Asia; even though, both Iran and Persia were used by locals to refer to their land. Iran comes from Airan > Airanam which in old persian means "my land of aryans".

The article correctly uses Persia when representing historical contexts, and Iran when referring to the present day. If its too confusing, then think of it as which you would use, Great Britian or United Kingdom when referring to the English Isles? I'll take this oppurtunity to add that the article is very well written, and I commend whoever that has graciously offered and placed time and effort into creating awareness of this plant, especially highlighting its Persian and Indian origins, and uses. Therefore thanks to the author of those sections. --94.195.194.144 (talk) 14:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

negative effects of Asafoetida

Please include a section on negative effects of asafoetida details can be found here. Opiate Antagonist properties may be considered a negative aspect in some circumstances, for opiate dependent individuals.--175.38.161.131 (talk) 17:01, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/side-effects-of-asafoetida.html http://www.thespecimen.org/wordpress/2011/09/side-effects-of-asafoetida/ http://www.rxlist.com/asafoetida/supplements.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.227.50.151 (talk) 17:00, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

OneMadScientist

OneMadScientist and their puppets routinely edit this article. All such edits should be checked against references cited for accuracy and original research.--I am One of Many (talk) 17:50, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Intro and title make no sense

Most of this article seems to be about the plant Ferula assa-foetida. However, the article title and the current introduction hints that it is about a latex coming from several species of Ferula. It makes little sense. If there is a need for two different articles, it can be split up, but it should be clear what the article is about. --Mlewan (talk) 08:11, 20 June 2015 (UTC) (Sorry, made first edit with IP address by mistake.)

VERY IMPORTANT: difference between Asafoetida and Ferula assafoetida

This article alarmingly mixes between Ferula assafoetida (the plant) and Asafoetida (the gum extracted from this plant). It needs to be split into 2 articles: Asafoetida and Ferula assafoetida. Thank you very much.--DrFO.Tn (talk) 14:33, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Relax. The article describes what ferula assafoetida is in the "Cultivation and manufacture" section, and the first sentence of the article says "Asafoetida /æsəˈfɛtɨdə/[3] is the dried latex (gum oleoresin) exuded from the rhizome or tap root of several species of Ferula...". Those passages could probably be enhanced, but I hardly think that indicates the need for a separate article, and certainly is no cause for "alarm"... any plant-specific information can be easily included in the Ferula article. Marteau (talk) 19:13, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry, but the title of the article and almost 90% of article talks about the resin or spice called asafoetida, while the small rest of the article, the interwiki and the taxonomic template refers to the plant (Ferula assafoetida). That is why, I find it inappropriate to let this article confuse the reader about the difference between the plant and the resin/spice extracted from it. Thank you for your understanding. --DrFO.Tn (talk) 20:17, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

In Arabic and Polish wikipedias, this problem was solved by making two different articles for the plant and the resin/spice extracted from it. Please, see the table below:

	English	Arabic	Polish
Plant	Ferula assafoetida	الأنجدان	Zapaliczka cuchnąca
Resin	Asafoetida	الحلتيت	Asafetyda

--DrFO.Tn (talk) 11:45, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

The correct species name is Ferula assa‐foetida with the hyphen. Please feel free to create an article on the species by clicking on Ferula assa‐foetida. [[User:Heaviside glow|Heavi

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FYI

• Mair, Victor, "Asafoetida: Satanically stinky spice", Language Log December 10, 2023

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Keahapana (talk) 21:10, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

incorrect reference to Bhagavata Purana, please put it right

in the History section there's a statement that asafetida (called 'hing' in India) is mentioned in Bhagavata Purana. That's not correct. Hing is mentioned in the lengthy purport to the indicated verse, in the commentary by Swami Bhaktivedanta (the founder of the so-called 'Hare Krishna movement'). There he quotes other puranic sources about - between so many other rules and prohibitions - not offering worship after eating hing. The Bhagavatam text doesn't mention it at all.

Ref: Srimad Bhagavatam, BBT edition, Canto 7, Ch.5, vs.23-24, purport) 151.37.183.136 (talk) 14:24, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

"Names in different languages" table

So someone has had a bit of childish fun in finding words for dung in various languages, but that list is for the most part unsourced, and is not giving the name of the cooking ingredient, it is at best a nickname used by an unspecified number of people. The links to equivalent articles in other languages include to articles in Danish, Finnish, French, Polish etc with article names, presumably following some sort of common name type policy, that are not those given here. So inaccurate as well as unsourced. Childish fun maybe, but not encyclopaedic. Kevin McE (talk) 13:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)