Talk:Asin

Parents

For some reason, there is a lot of information on her parents than about her. I'm not sure about the accuracy of it. If you have any links, please provide them. As I read, her mother took VRS when they moved to Chennai and her father still manages his businesses, even though he accompanies her everywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.140.49.152 (talk) 22:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Edits

Just thought I'd clarify my edits here, as I see it has been reverted once:

• I have removed the image, because it contains a link pasted on it, thus making it unfit for use on wikipedia.
• Kochi is the new name of Cochin.
• Syrian Christianity is not a Jewish tradition. It is 100% Christian. The Jewish link is only that Syrian Christians are believed to be Jewish/Brahmin converts.

I hope the edits are now clarified. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 15:03, 30 April 2006 (UTC) your so nice

Filmography

Movie "Chennaiyil Oru Mazhai Kaalam (2007)" will not feature Asin in the lead. Since she is busy with couple of movies now, director Gautham has choosed Bollywood actress instead of Asin and hence I think the movie should be removed. This is a confirmed news.

Movie "Kaarthika Thirunal Karthikeyan" will not feature Asin in the lead. I had a chat with her personally in the shoots of Pokkiri (AVM Studios) and it seems no one has approached her for the same. This is confirmed one from Asin Fans Network. Also would like to add that we have close contacts with the Actress and can provide authentic news. - Vinay (AsinFans)

Official Site

I am Vinay, webmaster of AsinFans.com! Kindly do not remove the link as the actress herself has given us complete permission to run the site and more over it will be the Official Fan Site for her. If you need more information, contact me on this regard. The site is not complete.. some additions left.

AsinOnline.com seems to be her Official Site, AsinFans.com currently shows no indication of housing her official fanclub with approval of Asin herself or her represantatives. Until such acknowledgements are given, it can only be considered a fansite. Best regards, --Plumcouch ^Talk2Me 11:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

DOB

we've had this chat b4 her DOB is in 1981 sed by herself. IMDB don't tell truth all the time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benzee (talk • contribs).

Citations needed

I have added the citation needed tags for her linguistic skills .It would be better to provide references.Bharatveer 04:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

As the given references are her interviews, i have added "claims to speak" in place of "speaks". Bharatveer 04:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Measurements

Why is my text on her body measurments reverted back?, can someone give a valid reason? I mean it is natural, and it information.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dogoood (talk • contribs) 06:57, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

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the correct name in Tamil

..is அசின் தோட்டுங்கல்.which is explained with the edit.Praka123 17:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

    I don't see the use of Tamil script in this article. She made all her initial big hits in Telugu, then she had many hits in Tamil, now she is concentrated in Hindi, She is not even acting on any current tamil movies. If tamil scripts for her name can be wrote in this article, then why not Telugu and hindi scripts are added. This will make utter confusion for anyone reading this article. Scripts of four languages in one person name. So I think only one language script is enough. Any telugu/ hindi person can write her name in their respective language in this article and make more ambiguity.

I agree that the text should be written in English. However, her initial Telugu movies were not "big hits". She has been most successful in Tamil cinema. Some of her later movies may have been big hits, like Ghajini, which was dubbed and released in Telugu and turned a box-office hit. Unlike her peers Nayanthara and Trisha, Asin never managed to get a good foothold in Tollywood, even after the release of Telugu Ghazini. Miss p r (talk) 14:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

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Asin won best female debut in tamil for M Kumarn s/o mahalaksmi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.170.204 (talk) 10:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced claims, puffery, POV interpretations

People keep reverting to versions of the article which contain violations of some of Wikipedia's core content policies guidelines: unsourced claims, personal opinions, analysis and interpretation not supported by third party sources and generally puffery. We are writing an encyclopedia, not a personal fan page. -- The Red Pen of Doom 12:47, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

So isn't it better to discuss it here first rather than EDIT WARRING?? Shahid • ^Talk2me 20:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Removal of inappropriate content in violation of our policies is not editwarring.-- The Red Pen of Doom 00:41, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Really? So let me introduce you to WP:EW: "An edit war occurs when individual contributors or groups of contributors repeatedly override each other's contributions" - this is what edit warring means. "Inappropriate content" is not something which is up to you to decide. You make a great deal of DRASTIC editing in an article that was like this for quite some time. Just go and check the differences. You claim that something is POV, others may say it is not. When a group of editors edit the same article to the extent of turning it all into an edit war, the TALK PAGE should be used. I suggest you guys to go section by section, analyse problematic sentences and come to a final solution. If it is not done, than you are the one who goes "in violation of our policies". Shahid • ^Talk2me 07:24, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

'from the state of Kerala' in intro?

i really wonder whether we need the part the state of Kerala in the very first line;

.. is an Indian film actress from the state of Kerala.

• Juhi Chawla article's intro doesnt say she is from the state of Punjab.
• Aishwarya Rai article's intro doesnt say she is from the state of Karnataka.
• Priyanka Chopra article's intro doesnt say she is from the state of Jharkhand.

In the section Early life and background, it is clearly mentioned that Asin hails from Kerala. Isnt that enough? .Thanks. Arjun (talk) 17:31, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Birthday ??

well theres a confusion regarding Asin's birthday ; the 2 claims

1. 26 October 1981 ref=IMDB
2. 26 October 1985 ref=Rediff

Hi.I'm Gitt93.All of the actors,singers and generally celebs always are lying about their age.she was born on 26 october 1981.if you look at her ,she doesn't look 26.she looks more than 30.i was born on march 1993 and my little sister on november 1997. there is alot difference between us when you look at. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gitt93 (talk • contribs) 15:49, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

IMHO, IMDB ref is more credible. Therefore, pls furnish any reasons to think otherwise, if any.. Thanks. Arjun⁰²⁴ 16:51, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Mate, IMDB isn't reliable! Where did you get that piece of information from? LOL! IMDB, like Wikipedia, is user edited - actually due to all this confusion I'm going to go on IMDB right now and change it, any you'll see within four weeks the truth. :)

Here's a series of links showing Asin's age: (born in 1985)

• Asin's 20th in 2005.[1]
• Asin's 22nd in 2007.[2]
• Asin's 24th in 2009.[3]

Universal Hero (talk) 17:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Okay.. wateva u say; u r a self declared Universal-Hero, cant mess with u. Arjun⁰²⁴ 07:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move (2010)

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 19:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

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Asin Thottumkal → Asin — "Asin" already redirects here. Common name is "Asin". Arjun^codename024 19:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

• Support - per WP:COMMONNAME. --Sodabottle (talk) 14:19, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
• Support, as it is the name by which she's credited and known. —SpacemanSpiff 15:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
• Support. She is credited as Asin in the movies. utcursch | talk 09:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
• Support as above. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 13:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

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Asin's Infobox Image

I think we should put the image of Asin attending the Fairever Cream launch party and move the older image in the other section of the article. Asin looks much better in the image with the red dress. Just a recommendation. :P Yours faithfully, Kotakkasut. 00:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Removed the section "Sex life" 89.204.137.183 (talk) 19:40, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Asin's Infobox Image

I think someone who can post a picture of Asin in the infobox from her recent movie ready where she looks gorgeous. I could upload it but sometimes getting probs with the license issues. Anyone who does got proper license can actually publish it in wiki. Its just a request from an Asin fan. Vijay536 (talk) 10:21, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move (2012)

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The result of the proposal was not moved. I'm leaving the possibility of Asin (actress) open but, in this move discussion, there is no real evidence provided that she is not already the primary topic. --regentspark (comment) 17:44, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Asin → Asin Thottumkal – In bollywood she is credited as Asin Thottumkal and its a norm where all actors are referred with their sir names. So i feel Asin wiki page should be moved back to Asin Thottumkal. --Relisted Cúchullain ^t/c 16:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)- Relisted Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 06:56, 14 July 2012 (UTC) - Vijay536 (talk) 14:49, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Support per AnimeshKulkarni's google results, it is clear that this person is not the primary topic. Most results refer to someone or something else. -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 04:46, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
• Comment anecdotally, the most obvious uses are arc sine and ASIN Amazon number. -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 04:47, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Arc Sine doesn't have its own article. Hence moving this article for it's sake is no good reason. And i seriously doubt people would want to see some website's numbering system. I am doubting its notability now. That article is simply based on primary sources. And as Vensatry suggests below, "Asin (actress)" would at least be considerable, but not "Asin Thottumkal". Nominator says she is credited that way and hence references should be provided. But even to change to "Asin (actress)" nominator and supporters have to prove that this article is not a Primary Topic. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 06:57, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

You don't have to have an article to be the primary topic. Since it is already covered in an article, asin can redirect to the article that covers arcsine, and a hatnote can be added using {{redirect}}, which is one of the reasons why we have {{redirect}} ; And you yourself have already shown this actor is not the primary topic. -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 03:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose Nothing to show that anything but Asin is the common/primary name. As far as whether this ought to be moved to Asin (actress) and a dab created in its place, that requires a separate discussion. —SpacemanSpiff 03:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Common natural disambiguation of the proposed title works just as well as "Asin (actress)" -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 09:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

  "Oppose" - Cher, Madonna, two very well known entertainers that have last names, yet are more commonly known by their "first" name only, seems that this person is also known by only one name.--ZooFamily (talk) 20:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

• Support I am not entirely convinced that this is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for asin/Asin/ASIN. Asin (actress) would also be acceptable.--Labattblueboy (talk) 20:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

Nominator should give supporting references to the claim made as "Asin" gives 165,000,000 Google hits whereas "Asin Thottumkal" gives only 2,340,000. Hence there is no reason to move per WP:COMMONNAME. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 08:27, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Animesh you need to add quotes in your search text--DBigXray 15:02, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

• Comment that result is totally NOT what you are claiming. ASIN is a very common identifier used by Amazon.com; "asin" is a very common abbreviation for arc sine; several other people with names "Asin" are also in your results. How does Erminio Asin relate to this person? What about Asin (band)? Indeed, your own search results show that arcsine is possibly the primary topic -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 04:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
• Comment – The google search result would not be helpful here since "Asin" can generate a lot of results, many of which may not related to the actress. You might go for "Actress Asin". I don't know how she's credited in Bollywood movies (She has hardly done six films there). She is credited as "Asin" in Tamil films (Majority of her films are in Tamil). Also this cannot be the primary topic. So I'd suggest the page be moved to "Asin (actress)". —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 12:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• Relisting comment To close the discussion, it would be helpful to see evidence that the actress is not the primary topic of this name.--Cúchullain ^t/c 16:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
• Support move to Asin (actor) or Asin (actress) as I am unaware to whether is a nom to refer to actresses as actors here. But quite obviously, she is not the primary topic. We have different things with this name, including the names of rock bands and mathematical functions. Secret of success (talk) 11:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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Religion

There is a conflict between sources regarding Asin's religion. The Times of India says that "she was born in a conservative Roman Catholic Christian family". IMDB says that "She hails from Thottumkal family which is a Syro-Malabar Catholic Nasrani family". Since the article falls under Biographies of living persons, I suggest removing her denomination, until a more reliable source can be found. Her religion can be left as Christianity , since both denominations mentioned in the sources are Christian. 203.191.35.22 (talk) 08:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

• Agreed. The sources contradict each other. No one has opposed, so I've made the change. BigJolly9 (talk) 16:30, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Both the sources say the same. But in different ways. Let me explain: Roman Catholic is an umbrella term which encompasses 23 autonomous particular churches and one among them is the Syro-Malabar Catholic Church which is an Easter Catholic Church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_catholic#Autonomous_particular_churches

So Asin is a Roman Catholic in general and a Syro-Malabar Catholic in particular. That is why I gave Syro-Malabar Catholic. so that it is understood that she is a Roman Catholic and a Christian. If you have any doubts left, please refer wiki articles on syro-malabar catholic church, roman catholic church in india etc..PalakkappillyAchayan (talk) 18:02, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. I wasnt aware of the subdivisions within the Catholic Church. Unfortunately, now the issue is that IMDB is not a reliable source per WP:IRS#Self-published sources (online and paper), especially on a biography article. Is there any better source that states her religion? BigJolly9 (talk) 18:32, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060514/asp/look/story_6217361.asp This source says she is a syrian christian (also known as nasrani or Saint Thomas Christians). We already have a source saying she is from a conservative roman catholic family. So she is a syrian (cast) as well as a catholic (denomination). And Syro-Malabar Catholic is the Syrian Christian Church from Kerala affiliated to the Roman Catholic Church. Thus she is a Syro-Malabar Catholic Nasrani as said in imdb. Hope you understood. I know these may be too confusing for a person not familiar with such terms. Still, if you need better clarity please see the wiki articles related to Saint Thomas Christians. Let me see if i can get more references. As of now the available 3 websites amply certify what I explained. PalakkappillyAchayan (talk) 14:20, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

The source seems fine to me. Maybe you can use the religion and denomination parameters in the infobox to clarify things. BigJolly9 (talk) 21:30, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation link

I had to use Google to find other uses of ASIN because all "aisn" queries go directly here even though other "asin" articles exist, there is an Asin (disambiguation) page, and even Asin (actress) and Asin Thottumkal redirects. I see there's no consensus to move, but I'm adding a discreet link to Asin (disambiguation). I don't think that should bother anybody, but I see there has been no consensus over moving the page, so just want to say I'm not on taking a side in that, just providing a link so that users don't have to go off-wiki to find out there's other definitions, which surely was not anybodies intention. Syd (talk) 06:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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Mid-sentence citations

@DMacks: My change placed the citation all of two words to the right of the claim. Per the part of WP:TSI that says "[t]he distance between material and its source is a matter of editorial judgment," I strongly disagree that I created an issue.

I'm not going to insult you by leaving you a 3RR warning but if I try again to, as you said, "re-word the Bharatanatyam-dancer sentence," I suspect we'll both end up violating it because I honestly don't know what you're talking about regarding BLP. Sure I have lots of edits but that doesn't mean I won't make mistakes. Can you explain exactly how I (might have?) violated BLP? City of Silver 17:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Let's compare:

1. "Claim 1,[ref] claim 2."
2. "Claim 1, claim 2.[ref]"

In #1, the ref is bound solely to claim 1. In #2, the ref is either bound solely to claim 2 or to the whole sentence (claims 1 and 2). The ref only seems to support claim 1 not claim 2. Therefore, styling it in a way that implies it supports claim 2 is {{verification failed}}. That's especially problematic in a BLP article. The TSI example is merely a different cause of the same effect: having simply "claim 1.[ref]" and later inserting "claim 1 claim 2.[ref]" where ref is only for claim 1.

Re-wording or breaking the sentence would be one way to keep the ref constrained to the claim it supports. DMacks (talk) 05:39, 10 November 2024 (UTC)