Talk:Asterix & Obelix: The Middle Kingdom
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Remove Speedy
editI removed the speedy, The whole article is not a copyvio. I grabbed a couple of lines and searched for them in the links, and did not find them.
There may or may not be sections of the article the are copyright violations, in which case the article should be edited to address those sections. Jeepday (talk) 14:37, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- When running the same Earwig copyvio report before accepting through AfC, the only semi large hit is only a few lines, and it's attributed in a direct quote. The other two Duplicate Detector links seem to be catching simple common phrases of a few words. -2pou (talk) 15:25, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jeepday and 2pou - Not sure how we are looking at two completely different copy, well I wasn't at first. I did a copyvio check using just Asterix. This sometimes happens when using the NPP tool and their is a hyphen or ampersand in the article title, and the earwig tool only picks up the first word. If you do that, you'll see that virtually the entire article is lifted from the two sources I listed in the G12 nom. this source was published back in 2/2017, and this one was published back in February 2021. When I saw that, I checked the Asterix article, to see if this had been split from there without attribution. But while the film is mentioned in the Asterix article, it does not look like anything has been split off since early February of this year. Onel5969 TT me 16:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: I'm still a little confused. When you look at the links listed in your nomination at Special:PermanentLink/1032761330, the hainburgin link gave 2% from Earwig and 31 pretty benign matches from Duplicate Detector. While the xn link gave 0% from Earwig and 9 matches from Duplicate Detector. Were you running against just Asterix? Because that throws a >95% match flag on both links, which is pretty wild unless they're mirroring. -2pou (talk) 17:37, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- 2pou, Here's the link to what I'm seeing: [1]. And yes, it is just against the title Asterix. But when you do a comparison with this article, you see the copyvio. It's pretty wild. Onel5969 TT me 18:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- As per Earwig against this very article, I think we are good here - just a couple quotes; marked reviewed. As for the match against Asterix, I'm pretty sure that's mirroring? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 19:43, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Elmidae, how could it be mirroring, when the other articles predate this one by years in one case, and several months in the other? Onel5969 TT me 21:26, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Eh? Maybe I'm getting mixed up here, but if that page is indeed from 22 February 2017, then it could have ripped content from this revision from the 21st. Given the weird hashing format of the external site (they are really just camouflaging warez, are they? Don't want to know :p), the lack of cohesive passages wouldn't be a problem. - Oh, well. It's probably not something we need to be overly concerned about in any case. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: and anyone else involved in the above discussion: Hi, I'm SiberianCat and I created the Wikipedia page of Asterix & Obelix: The Middle Kingdom on 7 January 2020. I built it, gradually, over some 50 edits and from many sources (all listed, and many of them French), mainly while it was relegated to draft space (as the start of the film's shooting was delayed by COVID-19). I don't plagiarize. I don't "lift" unless citing quotes from credible sources, which I reference on the page. I did notice in recent weeks that some other sites had lifted the content of my draft version. As for the discussion here and the message left on my talk page by Onel5969 - that's utterly bewildering. The message claims the page "appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement" and "a direct copy from https://xn--80apgfhelckg6l.xn--p1ai/health/asterix-and-obelix-comics-in-bengali.php and https://hainburgin.at/wp-content/cache/ysnmrjr/acaf22-asterix-und-obelix-titelmusik." Those links aren't about the forthcoming Asterix film that's set in China! Asterix & Obelix: The Middle Kingdom is in no way a copy of those pages. Anyone can check the page against those sites and see that it's completely different content. I don't understand why the suggestion was even made, as the Earwig Copy Vio tool was used to test the Asterix page, and not the page that I made. Grateful if anyone could explain why the insinuation of "unambiguous copyright infringement" was made. Thanks. SiberianCat (talk) 15:39, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- Eh? Maybe I'm getting mixed up here, but if that page is indeed from 22 February 2017, then it could have ripped content from this revision from the 21st. Given the weird hashing format of the external site (they are really just camouflaging warez, are they? Don't want to know :p), the lack of cohesive passages wouldn't be a problem. - Oh, well. It's probably not something we need to be overly concerned about in any case. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Elmidae, how could it be mirroring, when the other articles predate this one by years in one case, and several months in the other? Onel5969 TT me 21:26, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- As per Earwig against this very article, I think we are good here - just a couple quotes; marked reviewed. As for the match against Asterix, I'm pretty sure that's mirroring? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 19:43, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- 2pou, Here's the link to what I'm seeing: [1]. And yes, it is just against the title Asterix. But when you do a comparison with this article, you see the copyvio. It's pretty wild. Onel5969 TT me 18:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: I'm still a little confused. When you look at the links listed in your nomination at Special:PermanentLink/1032761330, the hainburgin link gave 2% from Earwig and 31 pretty benign matches from Duplicate Detector. While the xn link gave 0% from Earwig and 9 matches from Duplicate Detector. Were you running against just Asterix? Because that throws a >95% match flag on both links, which is pretty wild unless they're mirroring. -2pou (talk) 17:37, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jeepday and 2pou - Not sure how we are looking at two completely different copy, well I wasn't at first. I did a copyvio check using just Asterix. This sometimes happens when using the NPP tool and their is a hyphen or ampersand in the article title, and the earwig tool only picks up the first word. If you do that, you'll see that virtually the entire article is lifted from the two sources I listed in the G12 nom. this source was published back in 2/2017, and this one was published back in February 2021. When I saw that, I checked the Asterix article, to see if this had been split from there without attribution. But while the film is mentioned in the Asterix article, it does not look like anything has been split off since early February of this year. Onel5969 TT me 16:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
This page is an obvious Wikipedia mirror, containing content such as "Articles with unsourced statements from May 2019, Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2016", etc. If you look at the url, it contains the clue "wp-content". This page is also a Wikipedia mirror, containing clues such as "[edit]", and being (like the other page) a copy of the Wikipedia article Asterix. This article doesn't have any overlap with any of those pages. So this was a false positive.— Diannaa (talk) 21:41, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Category: Asterix books
editI question the inclusion of this category, because the article makes it clear the film is not based on any of the Asterix books. 101090ABC (talk) 19:49, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Wrong Chen
editLink to actress Julie Chen goes to the wrong actress. 2600:8805:9180:10F:F028:5287:9A44:D0B9 (talk) 14:31, 2 December 2023 (UTC)