Talk:Astronomy Domine/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

General comments

Discussion over the merits or dismerits of Syd Barret should be on this page, thank you.

He wrote the song, didn't he?--SeanQuixote | talk | my contribs 04:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

It would also be kinda cool to see someone give an attempt at explaining the meaning of the piece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.22.61.127 (talk) 05:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that should be included, because one can only speculate. Noone really knows what was going through Syd's head when it wrote it.--68.149.181.145 (talk) 08:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

It says that this song would influence Ummagumma, but it did also appear on it. There is some confusion as to what this means. Someone should specify what they mean.

--Pfflyer56 (talk) 02:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

The context of "influence" is already specified, the way I read it: "The style of the song and its use of sound effects would influence the future work of Pink Floyd..." If you feel the sentence needs more clarification, by all means improve it. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 03:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure the video section is correct. Maybe there are multiple videos, but the one of Pink Floyd lip-synching to "Apples and Oranges" definitely has Syd on there, confirmed also in the biography "Pigs Might Fly" by Mark Blake. I think it is confusing to talk about all of the videos. If someone could confirm Syd's presence or absence on the Astronomy Domine video that would be useful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.123.78.106 (talk) 15:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

"Influence" is a meaningless term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.166.119 (talk) 19:42, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Inappropriate material removed

The "Sounds and References" section had a lot of nonsense in it -- naked speculation ("perhaps reminscent of Duane Eddy"), peacock terms ("Barrett's bluesy, sinister-sounding guitar"), wasteful words ["seemingly emerges from the distance and grows louder" (WEAK) -> "emerges and grows louder" (STRONG)], insulting the reader's intelligence ("again reaffirming the feeling of distant space"; "Barrett's incantatory lyrics about space again support the theme in the song"), dubious original research ("a figure suggestive of the brass motif from "Mars, the Bringer of War" in Holst's The Planets." -- if you can't explain, in musical terminology, EXACTLY how it's "suggestive", you have no business mentioning it), and language that suggested somebody think's he's reviewing the song. Or, worse, interpreting it. Wikipedia is not a place for creative writing, original research, or amateur reviews. And the wasteful words! I've heard of people who like the sound of their own voice, but why would you want to type a bunch of needless, space-filling words? (At least nobody used "more or less"!)

If you need to, please note these examples for what they are: Poor writing.

I don't support the second-by-second stuff ("At 0:19, ..."; "At 0:26, ...") but I left it in. I always do. I don't know how people can stare at a clock while they listen to music, but whatever. . . .

In a different edit, I removed "Lucifer Sam" and "Pow R. Toc H." from somebody's list of "space rock" Pink Floyd songs. As Roger Waters put it, "Astronomy Domine" was "the sum total" of Syd's writing about space. I like that. I like Roger's way of putting things: THE SUM TOTAL. Do we agree with Roger Waters, or are we gonna go with the Trouser Press Record Guide? "Lucifer Sam" is about a Siamese cat, and "Pow R. Toc H." is an abstract, jazzy instrumental featuring a simple, naked piano solo. If a bunch of "space rock" groups (whoever they are) adopted those sounds afterwards, that's hardly Syd's fault! Space rock has long tried to claim the prestigious Pink Floyd as one of its own. I can't believe it's still happening . . . . Ben Culture (talk) 12:37, 13 May 2013 (UTC)