Talk:Aya Brea/Archive 1

Latest comment: 4 years ago by MJL in topic Back and forth

And then what..?

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After Aya brea takes the young clone of her in and forms a bond with her, then what happens...? Does she rejoin a police district again.? Where does she now work..? I don't have the information to answer these questions, so could someone add them to the article if they know..? The ending of the article seems a bit ominous. ZeroTalk 00:32, 2005 November 9

It's a game. That's the end of the game, so there aren't any answers.
Incidentally, I fixed the 1979 birth date. If she's 27 in a game set in 2000, she was born in 1973. The 1979 date would have her getting her degree and joining the police at the age of 18, which is a little unlikely. Ken Arromdee 21:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC)Reply
  • Actually, she is born in November 1972. (See the cutscene in PE 2, while Aya attempting to open the Ark computer files, and try to figure out the mitochondria source. Much to her dismay, it's HER MITOCHONDRIA. It shows Aya's bio and her background.)
  • Also, the crash which takes Maya's and Mariko's life actually happened in around 23 December 1977. (Check PE1, Day 3, US version. In Hospital, before entering the elevator [you can't miss it] to get the elevtor key, you must red several medical records, including ones that shows Mariko and Maya's date of hospitalization, which [seems] coincidentally also similar to the day where Melissa got hospitalized.)
  • I also like to ask this: is this Mariko, same with Mariko who get Kiyomi's kidney in Parsite Eve novel?

Biased on the Game

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The entire article focuses on the character from the video game, yet not the film. This needs to be fixed along with these following articles --FlareNUKE 08:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Aya doesn't appear in the film, so any article about her is going to be game-only. Ken Arromdee 14:08, 20 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

By the way, whoever changed the birth date to 1972 and gave Aya's father's profession--where is that information from? Ken Arromdee 14:08, 20 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

I'm puzzled as to that as well. Might attempt asking the editor who insertered it to provide a source. If not, I'll remove it. -ZeroTalk 15:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Spoiler warning

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I'm going to comment here, lest there's any confusion, I put it there because it spoils all sorts of plot elements for the games. If you wish to remove it again, I'd request you comment here and explain why the spoiler tag shouldn't be there. Errick 22:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Let's see, we're looking at context of "it spoils the reader despite the fact they came here to learn all about Aya Brea". Well obviously the articles must contain enough context because that is precisely what we do here in wikipedia: construct complete summeries! And I knew then and there that the articles were telling me clearly that this article will convey quite a bit of information, that reader will almost certainly realize an encyclopia is comprehensive, and that the tag is inapporpriate. I happen to prize overanalysis, and it looked just fine to me. That's how every one of our articles should be. The only difference is that with very brief articles some people don't seem to get this is a volunteer project; they only see a paharagraph or two. The spolier is really only necessary to illustrate an upcoming movie/video game/book not released to the public, which in my view is misconceived. -ZeroTalk 23:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
You may well be right, and I'll go with your take on it since you've been here longer, but my impression of the spoiler policy was that it is to be assumed on the worst case rather than the best. That is, assume that the reader doesn't necessarily understand the concept of encyclopedic information, and mark sections that might spoil the plot of a creative work, such as a video game, regardless of if it might seem obvious to a wiki-savvy user that a particular article would likely contain spoilers.
I just want to make sure I understand the policy as it is enforced and used, rather than strict letter-of-the-law, is all. I appreciate learning how things work here. :) Errick

Hrm.. actually, I reviewed the spoiler policy page, and I can quote the relevant line here:

Not all visitors will recognize the site as an encyclopedia, which should strive first to inform, spoilers or not.

That's the line under which I felt it proper to add the spoiler notice. If that doesn't apply, I'm not sure I understand why it doesn't. I'll wait to make further changes until I hear from someone though, because I don't quite understand how having a spoiler warning there would be a bad thing.Errick 03:34, 16 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

I think that the first paragraph of the history should be rewritten to remove mitochondiral references and put the spoiler tag after it. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 11:31, 16 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

I know. I think I have to balance that, and the possibility of disagreements concerning spoiler tags, against my personal experience that I don't see how they are constructive. In general (you know as well as I do) spoiler tags are a blunt tool, so it should be used very sparingly and never more than necessary. We're currently running the wiki as a comprehensive site of encyclopediac knowledge and I strongly believe that the spoiler warnings were unnecessary. Don't hesitate to place it back, but I question its true purpose. Its stupidly obvious by loading the page that the article will be comprehensive. No one comes to an encyclopedia to read an article's two or three opening sentences. That's silly. -ZeroTalk 12:00, 16 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Screw-up in dates...?

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Okay, it says that Aya was born in 1972 and her sister and mom died in an accident sometime around 1986. But in the game, after Maya died in the car accident, it says that Aya got one of her sister's corneas transplanted when she was 7. So 1972+7 is 1979, so Maya and her mom must've died sometime in 1979, not 1986, as it says in the article. Should we change it? --Tuspm (C | @) 23:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Back and forth

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I have no personal issue with an article here, but you need to own it, since the un-redirection was made by a banned editor. --Izno (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

My concern with this article is that I feel a lot of the reception that's not from sleezy "top [x] hottest video game babes" list articles can easily just be added into the Parasite Eve article rather than be spun-off into its own separate page. There's been very little in the way of improving this page to meet notability and almost all the issues it originally possessed are still present, so I fail to see how this page should still be a thing. Namcokid47 (Contribs) 23:45, 27 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
I'm happy to own it, and go with the consensus of whatever it is. While I agree that sexticles are problematic, I do not think that it is particularly egregious. We have critics who hold her in high regard for reasons besides sex appeal, who talk about her as a significant figure of the PlayStation era, and who, even within the sexticles, there is substance to how they are presented. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 00:12, 28 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Izno: Wait, a banned editor? Do you mean a specific editor? - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 01:44, 28 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
It's an IP hopper who recreated it (FANTASTIC), they're all by Raymondskie99. Namcokid47 (Contribs) 01:54, 28 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Namcokid47: I'm just here to say all the blocked ranges were proxies, and I have some decent off-wiki evidence that would suggest that this wasn't Raymondskie99 imo. –MJLTalk 05:04, 28 December 2019 (UTC)Reply