Talk:Aylin Tezel

Pronunciation of name

I added the pronunciation, (eye-LEEN TET-sel) based on how Germans say the name in interviews and such, without any correction by Aylin. I read in a German magazine that she once said that her last name, Tezel, was pronounced like Gemetzel. That word would sound to an American like ga-MET-sel. Turks might say the name differently, but Aylin was born in Germany and does not speak Turkish. I have never heard her say her own name herself, but I imagine she would use a pronunciation like eye-LEEN TET-sel. Tupelo the typo fixer (talk) 16:43, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Poor gal, her mother and father are Turks, and she does not speak Turkish. Do you live with her to know that? --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 16:46, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Her father is Turkish, Dr. Necmettin Tezel. Her mother is a German nurse, Ingrid Tezel. When she was asked in an interview on a Tatort set if she spoke German or Turkish at home, she answered that she unfortunately "knew absolutely no Turkish." When asked further about it, she added that "My father is Turkish, my mother German, and both spoke to me in German therefor I never learned the Turkish." She said those things in German, but I am providing the English translation of what she said about it.

Here is a link to the interview in which she said it, check from 3:25 to 3:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anvRougw1sI

Let me reiterate that she herself said that it was “Tezel wie Gemetzel” and Germans pronounce Gemetzel like ga-MET-sel

Tupelo the typo fixer (talk) 18:13, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I thought her mother was also Turkish. That makes no change in her surname though. Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 18:32, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I generally call people in my real life according to the pronunciation they themselves use, for example, when I meet an American with a German surname who pronounces it a more American way, I don't "correct" them to the proper German pronunciation. I suspect that you are providing the actual Turkish pronunciation of the name. I have suspected that Turks wouldn't say the name with the TS sound for the Z the way Germans do, I think only Germans do that, but if she uses a German pronunciation then we should too. Let me reiterate that she herself said that it was “Tezel wie Gemetzel” and Germans pronounce Gemetzel like ga-MET-sel Tupelo the typo fixer (talk) 18:54, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Then if you talk to her father you pronounce the surname differently than if you speak to her; difficult... --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 19:09, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate your providing the actual Turkish pronunciation. I mean that, I really have wondered for some time how the name would be said in Turkey. But my interest in that is just curiosity; I don’t think that we should start trying to get Aylin and everyone else to start saying her name differently. I will start to agree with you only when she starts saying her name that way, and starts correcting those who say TET-sel. When and if that happens, I will join you and will start using the name however she wants it to be used. But she seems content to be, in her own words, Tezel wie Gemetzel. You should be too. Tupelo the typo fixer (talk) 19:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I have no problem with Frau or Fraulein Tezel, she may pronounce her surname any way she wishes, but to me her preference would be WP:OR here. That is the question. Liebe Gruesse. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 21:57, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Here is the exact quote and the site I got it from, so please don't say any more about original research.

Das wird im Gespräch mit der „Süddeutschen Zeitung“ deutlich. „Tezel wie Gemetzel“, sagt die Tochter einestürkischenArztes und einer deutschen Krankenschwester, wenn sie nach der korrekten Aussprache ihres Nachnamens gefragt wird. Ganz ähnlich auch der Figur der Tatort-Kommissarin tritt sie auch mal etwas widerspenstig auf und drückt sich bewusst hart aus.

http://www.focus.de/kultur/vermischtes/aylin-tezel-aylin-tezel-tatort-kommissarin-mit-maedchenhaftem-charme_aid_1161969.html

I am deleting the whole bit about pronunciation, It just causes too much trouble. She is a famous person and I was indicating the pronunciation that she is actually known by, and at her own request. I am just absolutely sick of this whole thing, lets just leave out anything at all about pronunciation of her name. Tupelo the typo fixer (talk) 12:32, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

You could tell her that we don't make articles on request in WP. This is a pret-a-porter; you get what you find (in sources). --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 19:03, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

No problem, I’ll pass the word along to her just as soon as she gets home . . . are you kidding? Or do you actually think I actually know her personally? I have never met her, or even anyone who knows her, and probably never will. I have no means of doing any “original research”. Everything I know about her is from sources that are out there, that you can access just as easily as I, if you can read German, and I think you can. I know how her first name is pronounced from having heard her name mentioned in numerous German media. I know how her surname is pronounced by finding a site that quotes her as describing how to say the name, comparing it to the German word Gemetzel. I have already showed you where you can check that for yourself. And by the way, if you are going to insist on labeling her as “German Turkish” then please site your source showing that she has dual citizenship. Good luck, I have yet to find such a source. Or are you doing a little bit of “original research” of your own?

Tupelo the typo fixer (talk) 00:14, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

parents' names

No39 I found out Aylin's mother's name because back when they were filming Dublin Berlin they had a site that made mention of Aylin's mother contributing and it shows her mother’s name as Ingrid Tezel. Here it is, go to the bottom of the page at this link: http://dublinberlin.com/day-fifteen-penultimate/

About her father, I got that name by looking at online stories that state that her father is a Gynecologist in Bielefeld, and other sites that show only one Dr. Tezel in Bielefeld, and he is a gynecologist whose first name is Necmettin. I thought that was pretty conclusive and you can easily find this information yourself. Tupelo the typo fixer (talk) 13:35, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

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