Talk:Azande witchcraft

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This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): YoungWizard. Peer reviewers: JANAE2290, PINKSUNBURST, V00d00Child, Sir.Leyenda.

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Peer Review 1

Your article is starting to look like everything is coming together. The titles are good and the picture that was added on the right makes everything come together. I like the amount of content you have it is thorough and tells the reader all you need to know on the subject. nice job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelgav09 (talk • contribs)

Peer review 2

This is a very interesting topic. When did this witchcraft start and where? Where is it predominantly used and do people still use it today? PINKSUNBURST (talk) 16:13, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Peer Review 3

Your article looks very clean. The picture and the tiles are good. You have a good content with reliable sources. The information conveys what is needed. Your article is coming together! Good Luck! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shayes2 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Peer Review 4

This article is well cited but lacks wiki links. I would also like to know the specific gender of the Azande Witchcraft doctor, where the women involved in any way? The organization is very clean as well.Sir.Leyenda (talk) 16:10, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Peer Review - Post Move

Your article is coming along very nicely, but I am curious to know if there is any credible information that explains the process of choosing an Azande oracle or witch-doctor. Is it a family inheritance like the witchcraft itself or are a special few chosen for the position? Also, have there been any past incidents of position abuse from the witches, doctors, or oracles? Have any events occurred as a result of abuse of power? This is a very interesting article and I know sources can often be scarce, but I am also curious about the placebo effect of this magic on the tribe. Happy editing. V00d00Child (talk) 16:40, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

• V00d00Child, please be specific about the "nicely" part. You've looked at a few articles, you know, or should know, what kinds of structure, organization, etc. should be in here and I think you can make some suggestions on that as well. Having said that, User:YoungWizard, those are fair and interesting questions. Ponder them--and if there's no information that provides such answers, make sure you know for sure that that information is not there. Thanks to both, Dr Aaij (talk) 02:35, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Did You Know

1. DYK, in Zande society, they believe that witches use witchcraft to harvest the soul of a victim and feast upon it in a gathering?
2. DYK, in Zande society, witchcraft is the major cause of all tragic occurrences such as disease and death?
3. DYK, in Zande society, a group called the poison oracles feed poison to a fowl to determine if someone is a witch using witchcraft on another person?

Dr Aaij, These are three hooks that I can think of. Would any of these be acceptable? YoungWizard (talk) 20:01, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

• YoungWizard, I like 1 and 3 best. I'll go and nominate it real quick, hoping it'll be accepted. Dr Aaij (talk) 02:14, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
  • • • YoungWizard, have you gotten back to the DYK nomination and the questions? And what about the questions below--have you addressed those? You got good critiques: do something with hit. Dr Aaij (talk) 16:24, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
        • Dr Aaij, I have read the questions such as where the Zande predominantly live, and I gone through the recommended sources. I have made changes in response to them and will try to add more, but do I have to nominate the article again? YoungWizard (talk) 18:22, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
          • No, you need to go to that nomination page, from which you were pinged a few times, and discuss matters there with Gerda. And ping her, please--I doubt that she's still looking at it every day... Dr Aaij (talk) 18:25, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Not just Sudan?

According to the Zande people article, "They live primarily in the northeastern part of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, in south-central and southwestern part of South Sudan, and in southeastern Central African Republic." Either this article needs to reflect that, or there needs to be explanation of why not. (Maybe witchcraft is only believed in by Azande who happen to be in Sudan? I would doubt that, but this needs to be addressed.) LadyofShalott 20:56, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Potential source material

Enjoy! LadyofShalott 21:37, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

• Thompson, Ethel E. "Primitive African Medical Lore and Witchcraft" (PDF). Bulletin of the Medical Library Association. 53: 80–94. PMID 14223742.
• It looks like it is requisite for this article to reference "Form and meaning of magical acts : a point of view.", which critique's Evans-Pritchard's work.

• LadyofShalott, thank you for the source and the edits on the article. Could you explain the purpose of the author link is? YoungWizard (talk) 23:27, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Sure, take a look at the reference section. By adding authorlink, the citation of work by E.E. Evans-Pritchard now links to the article about him, so if someone wonders, "who wrote about this stuff anyway?" they can go directly to read about that author. LadyofShalott 01:06, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Dr Aaij DYK Noaya97 (talk) 01:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

• Noaya97, what am I looking for? Dr Aaij (talk) 01:27, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Dr Aaij I am not sure on how to make the JSTOR websites in my references accessible through the URL. YoungWizard (talk) 01:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

• They are--but they are simply not accessible for those who don't subscribe to it. I know your reviewer, and I sent her the articles. Your job is to improve the article; you worry about that. Dr Aaij (talk) 01:43, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
• And write a second article, of course. Now, have you incorporated the sources provided by the Lady of Shalott? Dr Aaij (talk) 01:50, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Witchcraft is not evil

It is an error to state that witchcraft is a form of evil and also to claim that people use witchcraft against people they are angry at. That infers intent and a consciousness of the witch-like substance, mango, that can be in the body of a person without them know it. I would strongly suggest speaking about witchcraft in the way that the Azande do, instead of the way that it is perceived by Westerners and/or outsiders. 16:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)142.3.180.223 (talk)