Talk:Baloch genocide

Images and Template

Hello , Could someone assist me in this article by putting images and template for it

Thank you GamerHashaam (talk) 19:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

What images and what templates do you need? Procyon117 (talk) 20:35, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

I need one like the one used in armenian genocide page or The Holocaust to properly complete the page

Also I needed a image thing which could be fit in that template 4-5 images GamerHashaam (talk) 20:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@Saqib Hey Could you put this in List of genocides and Genocides in history GamerHashaam (talk) 15:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

GamerHashaam, Well you can do it yourself as well. By the way, why are you using such graphic images in the article? —Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Evidence GamerHashaam (talk) 19:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

@CoolieCoolster and @Shadowwarrior8 could assist in this GamerHashaam (talk) 00:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

deletion warning

Some of the images currently used in this article, such as File:GOTgC0QaQAACulc.jpg, are unfree and will be deleted from Commons. However, they might be acceptable under fair-use exception on :en-Wikipedia, which requires them to be uploaded locally on :en witha proper fair-use rationale. This should be done very soon. --Túrelio (talk) 07:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

I am new so could you assist me in uploading it that way GamerHashaam (talk) 18:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Lack of citations

@GamerHashaam

There’s no citation for the “100,000 - 150,000 killed”. You need to put in a reliable source. Also, do you have any reliable sources that this is a full-fledged genocide? I would rather name this article as “Human rights abuses in Balochistan.” VirtualVagabond (talk) 04:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I think you should check amnesty International and DW news althought UN and UNHCR also would assist in that.

also the source :

http://thebalochistanpoint.com/1-40000-killed-at-least-20000-baloch-are-missing-since-2006-nawab-brahumdagh-bugti/ GamerHashaam (talk) 04:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Nothing about that link explicitly states a range of “100,000 - 150,000”, plus it only states a claim of a nationalist leader. VirtualVagabond (talk) 04:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I found one claim of 90,000 by a Rtd Indian Army Major and Other 150,000 by the Nationalist Leader. Most sources on this topic are either Pakistani Propaganda or Baloch News sometimes full swinged by Indians for there own quote on quote agenda GamerHashaam (talk) 04:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Well obviously they aren’t reliable, also, I’m not sure why you say “Pakistani propaganda”, the article uses a few Pakistani sources.

Also, I don’t think the article should say genocide, but rather human right abuses. VirtualVagabond (talk) 04:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Genocide is alleged and also refuted by some , a page on human right abuses already exists and Propaganda exists in everything and everywhere , you will realize it once your eyes are opened by some event. GamerHashaam (talk) 04:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Page doesn’t seem necessary

This page just seems extremely unnecessary and maybe even part of one’s personal agenda. We already have Human rights abuses in Balochistan.

That page is well-established, and has more to say. VirtualVagabond (talk) 04:48, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

True. Most of the content are either unreliable and OR ridden and are mostly a WP:POVFORK of Human rights abuses in Balochistan and other Balochistan conflict related pages. Would support merging any relevant and reliable content to that page. Axedd (talk) 04:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I’d agree, but I’m not sure when to begin, the source is riddled with unreliable sources, I’ve taken my time to take some of them out but I have no doubt some still remain. I believe that the content that will be brung from here won’t be that much, and in that case, perhaps a deletion may be more appropriate?

Willing to hear anymore ideas. VirtualVagabond (talk) 05:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Would support that too. Too many exceptional claims being made with unreliable sources. WP:TNT should apply here. Axedd (talk) 05:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the assurance, I’ve opened an AfD discussion, hopefully we can solve this. VirtualVagabond (talk) 05:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Two ISPR officals coming on wiki after cracking down on PTI and others to crack down on Baluch. hahaha

This is none's agenda lad , maybe Its yours and other folk that decided to enter the chat. Surprisingly both of you edit topics related to pakistan. GamerHashaam (talk) 11:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Accusing us of being military officials is just ridiculous, we are entitled to our opinion.

You are no stranger to uncivil behaviour, as just only recently as May, you insulted me repeatedly and accused me of being in the Pakistani military once before. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GamerHashaam#May_2024_(2)

I had lodged a complaint against you. After I did that, you apologised and dialed down on the antics, but it seems that it was not sincere. I wished those course of events were of the past, but it seems that you still talk in an extremely uncivil matter.

Please talk in a civil manner, we are not secret agents out to get you, we are only exercising our thoughts. Thanks for understanding. VirtualVagabond (talk) 23:45, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I am not accusing , have I named you as such? Your entitled to your own opinion but two persons who have edited only topics related to pakistan coming at same time to a page which is against government's opinion is kinda suspicious. GamerHashaam (talk) 09:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Or perhaps he came to give his two cents, as per WP:BEBOLD.

And you did name us as such, referring to us as “Two ISPR officers”, and the link I gave you showed the uncivil attitude you showed me only a couple of months ago, meaning that you haven’t learnt anything since then.

If you continue to exhibit uncivil behaviour, and throw accusations without basis, there could be consequences. VirtualVagabond (talk) 12:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Its crazy how It takes you 12 hours to reponse GamerHashaam (talk) 03:48, 30 July 2024 (UTC)