Talk:Banda Singh Bahadur

Execution_2 part is a duplication and is out of context.

The Excution_2 part that follows [Excommunication and rivalry with Tat Khalsa] is a duplicated part of the previous [Execution] part. The picture along with its attributes can be copied to the original part Banda Singh Bahadur#Execution and the duplicate part may be deleted.

The duplicated part also sits out of context while the original part follows a proper flow in the text. Abhijitkazi (talk) 05:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for pointing it out. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 09:54, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

By the way, I deleted the "Execution" section that was situated before the "Excommunication" section as he was excommunicated (in 1714) before he was killed (in 1716). Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 10:08, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Then the Banda Singh Bahadur#Siege in Gurdas Nangal part will come after excommunication. Could you please have a look at it and make the changes accordingly. Abhijitkazi (talk) 09:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Done again. Thanks. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 10:07, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 June 2024

His religion was Hindu and not Sikhism. This is clearly factual from your description in wiki as well 159.196.168.141 (talk) 01:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide reliable sources and state exactly what change you would like to see and where you would like to see the change made. RegentsPark (comment) 18:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 June 2024

Today i.e 24-June is shahidi day of Banda Bahadur 103.164.199.191 (talk) 17:47, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 20:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Motivation behind Banda Singh Bahadur mission

"The mission of Banda Singh has been generally misunderstood by historians. He is represented to have been commissioned by Guru Govind Singh to avenge the murder of his sons, just as the Guru himself is said to have been prompted in his early days by the desire to revenge the death of his father, Guru Tegh Bahadur. There is nothing in the whole history to warrant this conclusion. His wars, either against the Rajahs the Sivaliks or against the Mughal officers, whether at Bhangani, Anandpur, Chamkaur or any other place, we always find him on the defensive, taking to the sword as the last resort, in self-defense and self-preservation. A person of revengeful spirit cannot be expected to render timely help to his bitterest enemies or to the heir-apparent, his father's murderer. He was far above these personal animosities. Those, who are acquainted with the tenets of Sikhism , the writings of the Guru and the various events of his life, cannot believe that he could ever have thought to ask anyone to avenge the murder of his own sons. Had it been so, Banda Singh's work should have been finished after the defeat and death of Wazir Khan and the sack of Sirhind, and he should have led no expeditions against the rulers of Saharanpur, Nanauta and Jallalabad, the Ram Rayias of Ghudani, and the Faujdars of Batala and Sultanpur. In truth the Guru entrusted to him the noble task of continuing the war against the tyrannies and oppression of his time"

Based on Contemporary and Original records by GANDA SINGH, research scholar in Sikh history at Khalsa College, Amritsar PUBLISHED BY The Sikh History Research Department, Khalsa College, Amritsar, April, 1935.

On a page about Hukamnamas, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukamnama#Example it is said that Ganda Singh, in 1960, had a chance to study original documents pertaining Banda Singhs Hukamnama, before they were destroyed in operation Blue Star, as such labeling Ganda Singh as a reliable source for accuracy.

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After the passing of Guru Gobind Singh, hukamnamas were also issued by his widow, Mata Sahib Kaur and by his disciple, Jathedar Banda Singh Bahadur.

The Sikh Reference Library located at Amritsar held many authentic hukamnamas. These were lost after the events of Operation Blue Star in 1984. This collection was studied and published in two separate books by Ganda Singh and Shamsher Singh Ashok in the late 1960's.

14. Sagar 2002, p. 2"Ganda Singh edited his book on hukamnamas in the year 1969 under the title Hukamname. In the same year, the Sikh History Research Board, Amritsar brought out an edited work on hukamnamas under the title Nishan Te Hukamname edited by Shamsher Singh Ashok. Both the scholars utilised the same collection which was preserved with the Sikh Reference Library, Amritsar. These works contain facsimiles of hukamnamas and nishans of Guru Hargobind, Guru Har Rai, Guru Harkrishan, Guru Tegh Bahadur and Guru Gobind Singh. Other letters contained in the works are by Baba Gurditta, Mata Gujari, Mata Sundari, Mata Sahib Devi and Banda Bahadur. Edicts issued by various religious authorities like Takhats and the Khalsa are also included." Inginouity (talk) 04:27, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Inginouity (talk) 16:45, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 September 2024

I want you to add an additional reference for this line: "This European recorded his thoughts on the execution of the Sikhs in a letter he sent to the Governor of Fort William in Calcutta." I found the letter this european wrote to Governer william here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/40715367 This would give the reader the chance to read the letter that he wrote. I will be grateful if you could add this also in the inline reference. BSMSthere (talk) 18:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Podcasts are self-published sources and are generally unacceptable for sourcing.