Talk:Battle of Sorovich/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Djmaschek (talk · contribs) 23:14, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Initial review

I plan to review this article. The Balkan Wars are an interesting, but often neglected, part of European history. Can you add any maps that would be helpful for showing locations described in the article? Djmaschek (talk) 23:14, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Added a location map.--Catlemur (talk) 16:03, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

@Catlemur: Sorry for the delay. I'll get back on it soon. Djmaschek (talk) 05:36, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Review 1

Here are my GA review comments. Please fix or argue your case for not fixing. Djmaschek (talk) 04:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

• The article needs a map that allows the reader to understand the movements of the Greek army. Please strongly consider adding the following map to the Battle section: "Macedonia greece.png". The map includes several cities that are important to this article, including Salonika, Gianitsa (Yenidje), Florina, Edessa, Kozani, and Bitola (Monastir).

 Done

• This map may also help the reader understand the dimensions of pre-Balkan War Greece: "Map_of_Greece_1903.png".

@Djmaschek: I think this map is better suited for the article on the war rather than a specific battle. Other than that I have made corrections to the article as per your comments.--Catlemur (talk) 01:31, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Accepted Djmaschek (talk) 03:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Review 2

Here are more GA review comments. Djmaschek (talk) 04:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

• Introduction, paragraph 1: It was a battle fought > It was fought. ("Battle" is mentioned in the previous sentence.)

 Done

• Introduction, paragraph 1: around the Sorovich area. (The Amyntaio link needs to be here. Please do this: Sorovich (Amyntaio).)

 Done

• Introduction, paragraph 1: Where it found > It found. (Not a sentence. Remove "Where" and it becomes a sentence.)

 Done

• Introduction, paragraph 2, sentence 1: it broke ranks > the division was routed. Remove semi-colon (;).

 Done

• Introduction, paragraph 2: Monastir > Monastir (Bitola).

 Done

• Background, paragraph 2: Belgrade and Athens need links.

 Done

• Background, paragraph 2: with the latter declaring > with the League declaring. (It's better to be specific.)

 Done

• Background, paragraph 2: while Montenegro had already began military operations on 25 September. (Make this a separate sentence. Also, change "began" to "begun".)

 Done

Review 3

@Catlemur: More GA comments. Will continue later. Djmaschek (talk) 05:28, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

• Prelude, paragraph 1, sentence 2: 1st and 2nd Greek Division links need to be here.

 Done

• Prelude, paragraph 1: began its assault on Sarandaporo > opened the Battle of Sarantaporo. (Also, I would use Sarantaporo - with t - in previous sentence and later to avoid confusion.)

 Done

• Prelude, paragraph 1: Despite being perceived > Despite the position being perceived.

 Done

• Prelude, paragraph 2: Yenidje > Yenidje (Giannitsa).

 Done

• Prelude, paragraph 2: aiming at reaching > aiming to reach. Kailaria > Kailaria (Ptolemaida). Change semi-colon (;) to a comma in this sentence.

 Done

• Prelude, paragraph 2: Either uniting > There, the division would either unite. (Not a sentence.)

 Done

• Prelude, paragraph 2: Banitsa > Banitsa (Vevi).

 Done

• Prelude, paragraph 3: halting temporary > halting temporarily.

 Done

• Prelude, paragraph 3: Add link: Armenochori, Greece.

 Done

• Prelude, paragraph 3: Greek capture of capture of Yenidje > Greek victory at Yenidje.

 Done

Review 4

@Catlemur: Here are the last comments. Djmaschek (talk) 04:08, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

• Battle, paragraph 1: Lofoi needs a link.

 Done

• Battle, paragraph 2: Sotiras, Florina needs a link. I cannot find a link to Lake Petersko. The map says Limni Petron, so maybe Lake Petron would be better to use. There is no link that I can find.

 Done

• Battle, paragraph 3: Xino Nero needs a link. Is Petersko the same as Petres, Florina?

 Done

• Battle, paragraph 4: This caused the latter > This caused the Ottomans. I think Stena Kleidiou is Kleidi, Florina.

Fixed. Stena Kleidiou is apparently a pass next to Kleidi also known as Kirli Derven in Turkish. Now the article is far clearer.--Catlemur (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

• Battle, paragraph 4: While the Ottomans > The Ottomans.

 Done

• Battle, paragraph 4, last sentence: pressure to be exalted > pressure to be exerted.

 Done

• Battle, paragraph 5: had been routed fleeing towards (add comma after routed.)

 Done

• Battle, paragraph 5: Drosopigi, Florina and Kleisoura, Kastoria need links.

 Done

• Aftermath, paragraph 1: Greek victory at the Yenidje (Remove "the" if Yenidje is a city. Use "the" if Yenidje is a river.)

There is both a Yenidje and a Yenidje lake. The battle took place chiefly around the lake.--Catlemur (talk) 22:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

• Aftermath, paragraph 1: Those forces convened > Those forces assembled.

 Done

• Battle section: It would be nice if there was an appropriate picture to add (i.e. contemporary photo of Greek or Ottoman soldiers.)

@Djmaschek: Added a photo of Greek soldiers from the battle of Yenidje.--Catlemur (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@Catlemur: GA class. Thanks for the edits. Not seeing a Xino Nero link. Please add. Djmaschek (talk) 05:43, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

I added one but realized that it wasn't on first mention.--Catlemur (talk) 16:34, 1 March 2023 (UTC)