Talk:Belle's ball gown

Latest comment: 2 years ago by GhostRiver in topic GA Review

Quick note

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The perception of the dress being yellow instead of gold is likely due to being commonly portrayed as such in the Disney Princess line, which likely influenced the infamous colour change in the 3D Bluray release (2011)..--Coin945 (talk) 21:17, 6 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Belle's ball gown/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 16:37, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply


I'll be taking a look at this! — GhostRiver 16:37, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
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Infobox and lede

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  • "In Disney’s 1991 animated film Beauty and the Beast, the fictional character Belle wears an opulent dress during the ballroom scene in which she dances with the Beast to the film's titular theme song. The dress is a golden off-the-shoulder ball gown with a voluminous skirt." → "In the ballroom scene from Disney's 1991 animated film Beauty and the Beast during which the fictional character Belle dances with the Beast to the film's titular song, Belle wears an opulent golden off-the-shoulder ball gown with a voluminous skirt."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "the dress'" → "the dress's" per MOS:'S
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "as gold to commemorate Belle's" → "as gold, representing Belle's"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "and by Jacqueline Durran"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "influenced its live-action redesign"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

History and design

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  • It is more accurate to say the title song is performed by Angela Lansbury, who voices Mrs. Potts, than that it is performed by the fictional character
Thank you, but I have to disagree. In the context of the scene the paragraph is describing, the character Mrs. Potts is performing the song, not Angela Lansbury.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • ""forward-thinking affinity for the unusual."" → ""forward-thinking affinity for the unusual"." per MOS:LQ
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "in addition lacking" → "additionally lacking"
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "1700s fashion" → "18th century fashion" per MOS:CENTURY
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Background and original animation

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  • Probably worth mentioning the film is set in 18th-century France because that's when the original fairy tale is from
I don't think this is particularly relevant in the context of the article.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "few surviving artwork" → "few surviving artworks"
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • ""as a narrative industry."" → ""as a narrative industry"." per MOS:LQ
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Drop "Uproxx contributor Donna", as you said that earlier
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "animated Belle" → "constructed Belle's movements" to reduce repetition
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Broadway adaptation

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Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 19:16, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • ""classic Belle look."" → ""classic Belle look"." per MOS:LQ
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:50, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Delink Disney here
This links to "Disney Theatrical Productions", which is the live theatre and Broadway division of Disney responsible for producing their stage shows.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:50, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "since" → "as"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:50, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "Terrence Man" → "Terrence Mann"
Fixed, thank you.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Comma in $3,000
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "in 1998, specifically making the costume sexier and more revealing" → "in 1998, with alterations designed to make the costume sexier and more revealing"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Live-action film redesign

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  • You don't need to have citations in the caption if it's in the body
Removed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • "while attempting to add more texture" → "but added more texture"
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Cut superfluous and confusing "despite contemplating making it dissimilar to the original at times" – we know that she wanted to make non-color alterations, but the way the sentence is set up makes it sound like she both did and did not contemplate changing said color
Understood. Removed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • "Willow, the five-year-old daughter of actor Dan Stevens who plays the Beast," → "Willow, the five-year-old daughter of Watson's costar Dan Stevens,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Comma in 3,000
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Reception

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  • "fan favorite" → "favorite among Disney fans"
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:23, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Various MOS:LQ issures throughout
Fixed/repaired various instances throughout.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • "respective fields (stage and film)" → "respective fields of stage and film"
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • "upon debuting" → "upon its debut"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Same thing re "Donna Dickens of Uproxx"
Understood. Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Legacy

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Fixed throughout.--Changedforbetter (talk) 19:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • "Disney Princess gown" → "Disney princess gown"
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 19:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • "only being surpassed" → "surpassed only"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 19:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Commas around "designed by Eduardo Castro" to clarify that he designed the OUaT one, not the original
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 19:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • The sentence about the El Capitan Theatre makes more sense down here than it does in its current place
Agreed. Moved.--Changedforbetter (talk) 19:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

References

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  • Good
  • A small handful of non-RSes but always supplemented by an RS

General comments

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  • One fair use and one CC image, both relevant
  • No stability concerns in the revision history
  • Copyvio score looks good

Apologies for the delay; I have been busy with the holidays. Putting on hold to allow nominator to address comments. — GhostRiver 22:55, 29 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hey Changedforbetter, just wanted to get a status update on this. On December 9, you said it would take about two weeks, and it's been a little over three. Happy to hold this open for longer with more communication, just let me know. — GhostRiver 16:55, 1 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi GhostRiver and Happy New Year! Thank you so much for following up. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to come back to working on this review; unfortunately, I've recently lost access to my home/main computer shortly after I requested that this be put on pause, which has basically put a stop to my Wikipedia editing entirely for the time being. However, I am expected to have a new computer before the end of this month. If you are at all able to extend the hold until the end of the month, I would greatly appreciate it; please let me know.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:07, 3 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
GhostRiver Hello, thank you for your patience; pleased to say that I've finally addressed all of your comments and made changes accordingly. Awaiting final verdict, at your earliest convince. --Changedforbetter (talk) 19:19, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Now I believe is the time to apologize for my tardiness, as this dropped off my radar. Excellent work, passing now! — GhostRiver 00:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)Reply